DoD, Francis had the decency to make up other excuses for not wanting to play for Vancouver (already had a pg, too far from Grandma, etc) so he wouldn't have to say they were a crappy, loser organization. McGrady didn't bother. SJC, I'm going to have some trouble rooting for McGrady. I'm sure I'll like him over time, provided he doesn't pull a Pippen. But, right now he seems like a mercenary with a bad attitude. That doesn't really make for a lovable, snugable character.
Refer to post about Rockets fans and McGrady belonging to each other. You just proved it. Also, the point is that McGrady's still bashing after the fact. So no, I don't remember what Francis had to say after he got what he wanted. He seemed to move on with his life. foul ball. I love when Francis bashers have to rely on five year old incidents. It kind of proves the point.
Wow, you must have really hated Steve when he first got here...or did his made-up excuses make him lovable and snugable?
mcgrady would probably be best served to STFU up and just let his game do the talking but realistically how often does that happen? in his defense weisbrod hasn't exactly kept his mouth shut on his feelings about tmac so it's no big surprise that tracy has something to say in retaliation. as long as he says the right things about the rockets who gives a crap what he thinks about orlando anyways?
You know what, I couldn't give two ****s what kind of person he is because this league has proven that you don't need good character to win championships. I'm in it for the rings. Shaq did EXACTLY what McGrady did - how many rings does he have? What about Kobe, the supposed rapist? Dennis Rodman? Scottie Pippen who forced his way out of Houston? Was MJ ever an angel? I don't want nice guys, I want championships - and if it takes a vindictive 25-yr old to get it, so be it. I'd much rather have T-Mac's 30/6/6 whiny ass than Francis 20/6/6.
If Snuggle the Fabric Softner Bear could pour in 20 points without breaking a sweat then maybe I'd agree with you. As is, I have no problems with T-Mac's comments as long as he performs on the court.
No, actually I loved Francis from the start. For one, he was fresh from the draft, so he doesn't have that mercenary feel McGrady has for jumping from team to team. In that regard, he felt like a Rocket that was going to be trained up in Houston, not a superstar bought prepackaged from some other city. Francis was also very respectful of the other players in the league. He had high praise for Bibby, saying the Griz were already set at PG. He also showed a lot of respect to Dream and Barkley. And, he always showed a lot of heart on the court and was concerned about being a team player. Except for a couple instances where he felt he was robbed by officials, he took responsibility for losses onto his own shoulders and never criticized his teammates for their comparative lack of talent. After Dream left, he carried the whole team and never complained about the burden. And, he showed a commitment to the city of Houston, not just as a place of employment but as a home. All that made him pretty snugable.
Glad you are still a fan of the most beloved team ever. As for McGrady, he is young and immature, Steve is too. I think we got, BY FAR, the better end of the deal....time to move on. DD
Some Magic fans already replied about this thread on the Real G M Orlando Magic board. Man everyone comes to this board. Some of them think pgabriel made it up. Especially about the "don't no how to run no.." part. LOL.
So he says something bad about the organization, aren't most of you the same people defending Yao's criticism of his teammates???? So you have no problem with a guy who talks sh*t about his teammates but seem to have problem with a guy who talks sh*t about his FORMER employer? In other words, you prefer front office chemistry over team chemistry. Who here hasn't talked sh*t about his former boss?? isn't this a passage of rite in America? Can some of you people find something else to whine about in the offseason?? God, I'm afraid of the whining and crying on this board if TMac goes 6-18 in his first game and the Rox start 0-1. STFU, just STFU.
Come on Juan. It started to make Steve look silly after a while. First it was grandma. Then it was Bibby/playing time. Then he taunted the fans of Vancouver. I don't find making up excuses as to why you forced a trade some saving grace. As a matter of fact, I appreciate it more when you actually have a bonafied reason to force it. McGrady was there for a few years before he finally gave up on the team. Francis hadn't even given it 1 game before he forced the Grizzlies hand. Here's what I think : Had Weisbrod not called McGrady out like he did and had McGrady still bashed them, I'd have an issue. But since Weisbrod did talk trash about him, have at it, TMac. Through all this, I think Francis has handled himself admirably. Through all this, I don't respect Tracy McGrady any less because he is defending his character.
The don't know how to run no" is an actual quote. I also thought it was pretty funny, that's why I didn't correct it. 97.9's DJ has a personal web site from his show. He has sound clips from the show. So if they don't believe me, maybe its on there. I don't know, but the site is like madhattamorningshow.com. or something.
That's fine. I'm here to refresh your memory which obviously is a bit faulty. You're stating that Francis moved on? Click the following link : Vancouver's final game summary from ESPN.com : http://espn.go.com/nba/2001/20010414/recap/houvan.html Don't know about you, but sounds like Steve held a grudge against that city till their franchise's demise. So no, your recollection is off and your memory is failing you. As for bringing up something 5 years old - there's nothing wrong with that when the situation is somewhat similar to what we're talking about here. My point is that if you're so quick to forgive Steve for what he did, then you better be as quick or quicker to forgive McGrady.
