ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! GOD is a rockets fan! (still!) ------------------ purvis was never short.
Was Bullard in the war room tonight? Because dammit I could've swore we just witnessed an MMM. This makes me feel better about the whole C-Webb chase also. At least we won't be left with nada in the frontcourt in the event we don't land Webber and Mo decides to jet. C- Dream PF - Bull SF - EG SG - Mobes PG - Wink Bench - Cedric Maxwell, Dave Jamerson, Len Bias, Moochie, Calvin, Matt "Air" Bullard ------------------ ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
The difference between making the playoffs or having a miserable lottery season: MS. MOBLEY! The glue that will hold it all together. Better start cookin' cuz these boys probably have a healthy appetite! ------------------ If you have nothing nice to say, say it anyway.
Friday, June 22 Updated: June 25, 11:43 AM ET Griffin's No. 1 problem ... his past By Adrian Wojnarowski Special to ESPN.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As NBA drafts go, there have been few serious No. 1 overall candidates with the unimpressive, unproven history of Eddie Griffin. He had a year of college, presumably a year of growing up, constructing his character and molding his immense talents into a pretty package for the pros. The irony, of course, is his season with Seton Hall turned out to be a lesson in permissiveness, reinforcing a sense of entitlement and creating more questions than answers about Griffin. Want to take him No. 1, Michael Jordan, well take your chances. If this kid has a love for the game, it's hard to see. If this kid has a desire to win, it's impossible to prove. All we know for sure, is this: He has immense talent, and a belief that basketball owes him. Welcome to 2001. Welcome to basketball's troubling future. Eddie Griffin's talents are unquestioned, but his questionable attitude overshadows his talent. One year as a college freshmen taught Griffin there was nothing he couldn't do and still be forgiven because of a 6-foot-9 frame just oozing with talent. He discovered he could threaten a teammate, Ty Shine, in a January huddle, sucker punch him in the locker room and absolutely walk on it. Tommy Amaker, fearful of frightening off future blue-chip recruits, gave Griffin just a one-game suspension for a premeditated punch --- the kind of punishment that usually goes with missing a class, or showing up late for a practice. This wasn't exactly the mentoring Amaker promised Griffin's late brother, Marvin Powell, when he recruited Griffin out of Roman Catholic High School in Philadelphia as the nation's top prospect. Let's see, what else? Well, Griffin turned terribly selfish for the Pirates, discovering he could freelance within the offense without consequence. He could take wild shots, play defense by just swinging his long arms to block shots and never, ever hear a disparaging word out of his coach's mouth. His team could lose, but the best player was forever protected as Amaker privately stacked the blame on the upperclassmen. "When we started losing, a lot of people just said, 'Forget it, I'm going to get mine,'" Griffin said during the season, failing to mention he was typically the first one in line to get his. Rev. Paul Brant, principal of Roman Catholic, did his best to curtail Griffin, fearing the young man's future if he didn't. They were losing a grip on him at the high school, and the good father made one final lunge to save him on his way to college. What Amaker refused to do with Griffin at Seton Hall -- show him that he wasn't above punishment, immune of consequences -- Rev. Brandt had done. Near the end of his senior year of high school, Griffin and a 6-10 classmate, Marcus Gantt, ended up in a classroom fight, these two enormous bodies flailing on the floor. There was a zero tolerance policy for violence at Roman Catholic, and this was the end for what could turn out to be the famous alumnus in the school's history. They let Griffin get his diploma, but he had to finish his academic year at home. Father Brant tossed the most famous high school basketball player in the country out of school, believing it could end up saving this kid down the line. "What if we hadn't done it?" Rev. Brant wondered several months ago. "That was my biggest concern. If we hadn't let him know he had to take responsibility for his actions, later in life when he became a pro athlete what would happen when he was faced with circumstances where he had to be accountable?" To get his diploma, Griffin had to undergo anger management counseling. Months before flipping out on Shine, Griffin said, "The anger management classes helped me on the court," Griffin said. "I've grown from it. Now, I've got (my temper) under control." As it turned out, this just wasn't the case. Father Brant did his part, but it wasn't in the NBA that Griffin had to be made accountable, it was in college. Griffin failed the test. Griffin has a disturbing history of reacting to conflict with violence, of pouting and feeling sorry for himself when things don't go his way. After everything a year ago, he couldn't believe the Seton Hall fans booed him. It was downright scary that he couldn't begin to understand it. "Emotionally, you're talking about a kid who was a young high school senior, who was 17 for most of the year," Rev. Brant said. "To be in the pros, and miss that development in college, would've been so difficult for him." This is the most disturbing part of the Eddie Griffin saga. He had his year in college, but what was it worth? After creating more questions than answers about himself, he has a chance to the No. 1 pick in the NBA draft. Welcome to 2001. Welcome to basketball's troubling future. ------------------ "For there is nothing either good or bad, thinking makes it so." - William Shakespeare (1564-1616), Hamlet
Eddie will punch the guy that wrote that article. ------------------ "If you don't understand it, don't try to understand it." -Carl Everett
Man I am going to hate this Floyd, but hell for the Rockets I will take it. Besides who knows, maybe Eddie will try and punch Langhi and Rudy T will feel bad for him and Langhi will start the first game =) There is almost as big of a grin on my face as the day the Rockets got Franchise from the Grizzlies!!! ------------------ Houston Rockets...Unbeatable Akeem Olajuwon
Wink3Cat5: My moniker is your to change. Even though its taken about 2 years to get 100 posts up, I DON'T CARE!!!!! I'm just glad the Rockets grabbed one of the maddest players in the draft. We shall all go down with our leader CriscoPartner, er heypartner, or whatever the hell his name is now.... ------------------ "Blind dates suck. When they told me she had long dark hair all the way down her back, they fogot to mention none of it was attached to her head. She really did have long dark hair all the way down her back."
I'm in awe. This could not have turned out better. I signed off, feeling a little confused about Morris, but then logged back on, and found out we traded for him. Way to go, Rudy! The best player in the draft at the position we needed most, and a solid backup who Francis will enjoy. Simply amazing! ------------------ the more I know, the more I know I don't know...
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! GOD is a rockets fan! (still!) Absolutely, no doubt about it. ------------------ Go Rockets Go!
I can't believe this just kicks anus Eddie Griffin in a Rockets Jersey "How sweet it is!!!" ------------------ -Junkyard Dog "Maybe we need an enema" - Othella Harrington (former pf for the Rockets) Junkyard Dog's Houston Rockets Web Page
2 Eddie griffin threads ------------------ May I have another Snowball Clutch? Please may I? Ill be a good little mole.... I promise.
TheFreak, I somehow had you in the the SF bet thingey. I misunderstood, you were the one that didn't want the Rockets to improve at all, you didn't care about the actual positions. j/k.. ------------------ calling powdered toast man girl you looks good won't you mock that draft up?!
I agree with everybody right now....I mean how can you be upset with probably the best player in the draft, and with T Mo who has so much potential?! I guess one draft makes a hell of a difference. I still rememberlast year when all the whiners(inlcuding me) complained about Collier. But it's unfortunate that the Rockets were not able to move Cato to the Bulls.(Krause is an idiot so I was hoping a trade would fall through)!....I can't wait for the offseason!! Cod ------------------
I agree with everybody right now....I mean how can you be upset with probably the best player in the draft, and with T Mo who has so much potential?! I guess one draft makes a hell of a difference. I still rememberlast year when all the whiners(inlcuding me) complained about Collier. But it's unfortunate that the Rockets were not able to move Cato to the Bulls.(Krause is an idiot so I was hoping a trade would fall through)!....I can't wait for the offseason!! Cod ------------------
I agree with everybody right now....I mean how can you be upset with probably the best player in the draft, and with T Mo who has so much potential?! I guess one draft makes a hell of a difference. I still rememberlast year when all the whiners(inlcuding me) complained about Collier. But it's unfortunate that the Rockets were not able to move Cato to the Bulls.(Krause is an idiot so I was hoping a trade would fall through)!....I can't wait for the offseason!! Cod ------------------ [This message has been edited by Codman (edited June 28, 2001).]
This is without a doubt one of the most unbelievable acquisitions in Rockets history. In a few years people are going to sit back and laugh at this trade and wonder what the hell NJ was thinking. (Why aren't they already doing that?...there has been absolutely zero coverage of this highway robbery) This draft gets 5 stars from me. Getting the best player in the draft for 3 garbage first round picks is absolutely unbelievable and the Morris pickup is interesting. It was real funny because when Rudy was being interviewed by one of the local news stations, it seemed like he was expecting the fans to be critical of this move. He said something along the lines of, "people need to realize that those 3 picks weren't made by us, and they'll say 'oh, you had those guys and gave them up,' but we didn't draft those guys." Anyone with half a brain will realize that this was a great deal. I no longer want Chris Webber. More on this later but for now, I don't like the idea of having 4 guys on this team that need the ball. I'd rather wait and let Francis and Griffin develop as a solid 1-2 superstar punch with Mobley a solid 3rd option. Adding Webber gets you into Portland territory with too many guys needing the ball. Griffin also covers up for Mo's deficiencies.
