There is not a trade out there worth the #1 pick...

Clippers:
#8
#12
Olawakandi
Odom

for...

Rockets:
#1
#15
Kelvin Cato -or- Kenny Thomas
Glen Rice

Sounds damn good to me...MoTay and Odom blaze 'em up!

 

1) I don't know anything - I only watched about two college games last year.

2) It is apparent that I am in the minority - but...

Ming is going to be bust, IMO. Even if trades did not exist, I would pass on Ming. I'd take Butler, Dunlavey or Wilcox at any pick if Ming was still on the board.

If trading down gave us any flotsam that we could package with our number 15 to move up even one or two places, I'd do it in a heart beat. There is a knot of decent big man projets, and a fair chance that one of them will slip to 15. Movin up just one to three slots would A) increase our chance of getting into that knot, and B) maybe let us have a choice of that knot.

To me trading Ming is a no-brainer.

 

Is anyone else afraid of pulling a Minnesota Vikings (Herschel Walker trade) if we try to get KG?

I think he is very good, but he is NOT clutch. So I think he may be more of a drag on our team, especially if we have to give up Mobley to make it happen. KG is definitely less risk than Ming is though.

My preference would be to get Brand and Odom

#1, #15, Rice, Taylor

for

#8, #12, Brand, Odom

The money is a little off - LAC has 2003 team option for Brand, maybe they can S/T him to make the $$$ work?

 

Ok, I don't want to ruin your Houston Rockets pride parade, but some of these trade proposals are ridiculous.

First of all, the Bulls are not going to trade Chandler or Curry or even E-Rob, for that matter, to move up to #1. The glory of the situation is tha the Bulls are winners no matter what. If the Rockets draft Ming, the Bulls get J-Will. If the Rockets draft J-Will and trade him, the Bulls can draft Ming and trade him to a team that is happy he has fallen to #2

To recap,The Bulls are not gonna give up anyone to move up to #1; especially not an important part of their franchise.

Also, aren't the Rockets close t beng over the cap? How are you going to get A.Jamison or Garnett, without giving back something? Do you actully think overpaid players like Cato have any value? Th Rockets, despite popular belief, are not in a GREAT position. They can either take Ming or accept a bad trade. Looks like Ming will be the choice.....

 

My idea is to make a 3-way deal, with Cleveland and New York, where we acquire the #6 and #7 pick. Send the #1 to NYK. Then with #6 and #7, draft Caron Butler and Nene Hilario. In our first season, we'll make the playoffs, but will get eliminated early. he season after that? New arena, young etam, Rice retires leaving SF to a very complimentary duo of T-Mo and Butler, while Griffin mans the 4. Hilario begins to get used to the game and begins showing flashes of a cross between Hakeem and K-Mart. Wow, imagine in 2003, we have this:


Hilario
Griffin
Butler/T-Mo
Mobley
Francis



Isn't that incredible? MAGNIFICENT even? I especially like T-Mo backing Butler up. Two very different players who both bring hard work, energy, and defense, but at different sizes.

 

Some good points J-Crossover. Yeah, Brand and Odom + 12 + 8 is way too much for the #1, 15, MoT & Rice. But leave out MoT and work in KT + other players and have the #1 being the only pick swapped (Hou-LAC) then you have a reasonable deal.

Yes and no. The #2 pick is a good place, but they still have to be concerned we draft and trade JW especially if they really don't want Ming. So yeah, we aren't going to get #2 plus Curry or Chandler, but we could get their 2nd rounder or a little more to swap picks.

You are right players like Cato and MoT and Rice don't have much value, they are mentioned (as thrown ins, cap space equilizers) to make trades work according to league rules. The #1 pick is what has has great value though--probably the best #1 pick since probably TD's year (97?). We control where Ming or JW goes--two of the most intruging prospects in years. The Bulls are the only team that can play cat and mouse with us at all, and if they lose (miss out in JW because of games) it hurts them more than us. So yes we are in fantastic position and the teams are coming to us, not the other way around.

 

1-15 +Collier+ Langhi for Marion and no9

 

DCKid, actually no one said that Brand was untouchable. He was part of a failed plan that included possible FA acquisitions such as McGrady. When that plan failed it was clear that we needed to head in another direction.

Chandler and Curry are part of a new plan. So far so good. They aren't going anywhere. I am not trying to be mean, but you guys are just being VERY unrealistic if you think you are gonna get one of the H.S. players or Rose.

Also, J-Will is not a MUST for the Bulls. We could easily trade down or even just take the best availabe player. I'm sure Memphis wouldn't mind trading up to secure Dunleavy. NY is also interested in Ming. So we are hardly in a bad position if we lose out on J-Will. I can bet you that Krause is not about to let the Rockets hold him hostage. We will call your bluff and if you actually do take J-Will, then we move on to our other options...

 

The Clippers are not in a good position to decline a trade for odom and Brand.
1. Odom is on the way out. Front office is very displeased with his off the court problems and he has made threats he won't resign.
2. Brand never liked being traded to the Clips and he too has made threats not to resign.
Bottom line Clippers are looking to get anything valuable for those two. They are looking to add veteran leadership and that is what Rice would give them. They won't take MoTay.
1. He has voiced displeasure about playing there before and has taken himself out of games voluntarily because he was sour about being there.
2. He is coming off an injury.
3. Overweight...coming into the offseason 300+ pounds.
The ClipJoint is looking to take away the Lakers clout. TV ratings, jersey sells...and they so desperately want to get into the playoffs. They are seeking veteran leadership who will play behind their glut of young talented stars. You guys have to remember that this is not just a game...it's a business and sometimes money makes the world go round. Yao will sell tickets in Los Angeles and the clippers "suitpatrol" know this.

 

LOL

Thanks for responding with class....


Just don't cry when you don't get Chandler or Curry or anyone worth much.

You guys can take Ming or trade with GS and get maybe Foyle or someone like that. Good luck...

 

Tell us....So we hit a snag with Ming and his contract...We pick J-Will to trade him...What do you do? Do you think Jerry West will be "played"? What do Denver have to give you?


Just tell me, what would you do?

 

The Rockets don't have to gamble or do anything with any team. All they have to do is draft Ming and leave it at that. Of course with the talent they have and the picks, the clippers can do whatever they want to do. They have the 8 and the 12 and with Kandi asking for a lot of money, brand and odom due for extensions and blossoming players like Miles and Q they are in the drivers seat.

Obviously with the 8 and 12 they can go for security. If they want to let Kandi walk or is afraid Brand might walk, then they could go Hillario at 8 and Marcus or Borchardt at 12. The clipps have the euro 6'7 pg ready to come in and take mcginnis spot. They have another yr to see if Odom can fly straight, if he does and resgn Brand those picks only adds to a already deep team. I'm scared to death of their talent and really hope the owner proves to be true like in the past. One thing is for certain, they are not complete fools, they didn't give Taylor or Anderson max contracts.

 

What we do is try and trade ming to a team that wants him, such as NY. They could put a package together such as Kurt Thomas #7 for #2. At #7 we would take the best available player. If that doesn't work then we can take Dunleavy or Wagner or maybe Caron Butler. We don't need Ming because we already have our future at the 4 and 5 positions.

All is not lost if we miss out on J-Will. You guys are not really in a position to hold this draft hostage because everyone knows that the Rockets have no use for J-Will.

 

We wouldn't keep him. Again, if Ming drops, then there's a problem. Does NY want him if there's a problem?

They've already said the city won't be a problem. Dunleavy, Wagner, and Butler are a totally different class of players...

 

I have to agree that it is unlikely that Chicago will move up. why? Well there are 2 players they are interested in, Ming not included, Dunleavy and Jason Williams ... both would be good fits for Chicago so while they wouldn't mind the #1 pick I doubt they will give up a lot ...

Other teams that are unlikely trading partners include Memphis ... why? ... we are interested in Butler or Dunleavy thus its overkill to get the #1 pick.

I have a hard time to see a GSW/Huston trade since they wont give up Richardson and what else could you be interested in? ... future draftpicks? ... doubt it ... I assume you want to win now to please little Stevie ...

As for the Clippers ... well they really dont need any more players that are projected to get the max in the future, as a #1 pick would be, and they already have their point guard of the future in Marco Jaric ... so unless they want a new center project instead Kandi they are out of the bidding ... It would also be suprising to see them do the opposite to what they did last year and trade players/picks for a high pick ... then again this is the Clippers and not even god knows what will happen with them ...

I could easily see an interest from Denver ... lets face it Denver needs to rebuild and a healthy McDyess would be a great fit for a huston wanting to win now ... NY obviously wants a high pick but have nothing of value to give up for it ... Phoenix might want to shake up their team with a big trade, dont expect to see Marion to Huston though, and have some nice players to part with ... and there are probably tons of others too ...

 

Finally, someone who sees the light....


Antonio could work for you guys, but he is almost due for a contract extension. Can Houston afford it? The last thing Denver wants is to take on bad contracts like that of Cato.

 

One of the many problems with your post is that Jamaal Tinsley does not play on the Bulls.