1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

There Have Been 5 Major Shootings in the U.S. in the Past Week Alone

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Miracles Boys33, Jun 11, 2014.

  1. Miracles Boys33

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2012
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    20
    http://www.policymic.com/articles/9...licymicFB&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,012
    Good guys with guns were on vacation. They'll be back Monday, problem solved.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    52,661
    Likes Received:
    13,577
    If only we could ban all guns, then bad things would never happen ever again. Whatever we do we should focus on the tool and not the reason why they are being used.
     
  4. dmc89

    dmc89 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    3,816
    Likes Received:
    255
    You're being obtuse. Few want to ban all guns. Few only want to focus on guns. Most want a comprehensive solution which includes background checks and increased access to (mental) healthcare and more.
     
  5. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    37,668
    Likes Received:
    9,139
    For someone who claims to be politically independent, you're really good at regurgitating GOP straw man arguments.
     
  6. shastarocket

    shastarocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2006
    Messages:
    13,773
    Likes Received:
    1,080
    Even more discouraging is that there have been at least 74 school shootings in the US since Sandy Hook
     
  7. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    25,738
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    More of an NRA argument. According to Obama both sides of the corrupt political spectrum are terrified of us (the NRA) so what is the point of this thread again?
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    52,661
    Likes Received:
    13,577
    Just because I don't support a political party doesn't mean I don't have opinions. The idea that you should blame the tool for the actions of the people who choose to wield it is ridiculous. We have a problem in this country with people who want to kill other people, that's the problem, not the tools they use to do so.
     
  9. treeman

    treeman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 1999
    Messages:
    7,146
    Likes Received:
    260
    You do realize that unless it is an individual-to-individual sale there is already a background check involved, yes? All sales through a FFL - out of a store, at a gun show, out of the trunk of the car - require a background check to process; that is already the law of the land and has been for decades. If you are trying to stop individuals from selling guns to criminals, a law isn't going to change anything (because you know, they're criminals and don't give a sh!t about the law); the only thing you'd restrict is sales between law-abiding citizens. The background checks "issue" is a red herring.

    If you can figure out a way to keep firearms out of the hands of mentally unstable people without infringing upon anyone's rights, please let us all know. That way we can revoke their driving privileges as well, which would probably save even more people. And I mean it, if you have any ideas let us know. I think we can all agree that we don't want firearms in a mentally unstable individual's hands, since it is the mental instability that is the true cause of the violent act.
     
  10. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,012
    Yes, the knifings and baseball bat murders have become an epidemic.
     
  11. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    25,738
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    That isn't for all states and for the states that face to face sales are legal both parties need to be residents of the same state and in that state.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    52,661
    Likes Received:
    13,577
    Yes because that's the only way to kill people if you don't have a gun.

    Thank goodness those guys in Boston didn't have guns during that marathon....
     
  13. treeman

    treeman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 1999
    Messages:
    7,146
    Likes Received:
    260
    Nah, that's only in the UK and Australia, where they banned guns. :rolleyes:
     
  14. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,012
    Unfortunately we have no way to track how most murders occur. It's a shame, let's divert our resources to ridding the country of pressure cookers. Surely that will solve the problem, good idea.
     
  15. treeman

    treeman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 1999
    Messages:
    7,146
    Likes Received:
    260
    The requirement that FFLs conduct a background check on all firearms sales is federal law - it applies everywhere. Some states have laws mandating background checks on sales between individuals as well, but of course only law-abiding citizens will abide by those laws anyway.

    My point is that mandating background checks on individual sales is not going to have the desired effect because only the law-abiding will adhere to the requirement. Criminals will simply ignore the requirement just as they ignore other laws.
     
  16. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,012
    LOL. The murder rate in the US is 5 times the rate in the UK and Australia. Just go away without polluting another thread with your trash.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    52,661
    Likes Received:
    13,577
    Again, you are still focusing on the tools and not the reasons why they are used. Someone is just as dead when they get blown up by a bomb as they are when they are shot, methods are irrelevant motivation is all that matters.
     
  18. Bandwagoner

    Bandwagoner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Messages:
    25,738
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    The road fatalities are 4 times higher in the USA than the UK. PRoblem with that or are those deaths (which happen on public roads by licensed drivers) not as big of a deal to you?
     
  19. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 1999
    Messages:
    56,030
    Likes Received:
    22,448
    What are minor shootings?

    Rocket River
     
    1 person likes this.
  20. treeman

    treeman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 1999
    Messages:
    7,146
    Likes Received:
    260
    And do you think that relatively high murder rate has anything to do with the culture? Particularly inner city "ghetto" culture where murder is glorified? Of course not, it's all because of inanimate objects. Couldn't possibly be anything else...
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now