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There are no absolute truths

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Honey Bear, Feb 9, 2011.

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  1. Qball

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    I asked my lil niece, "what's fo + fo?". She said "fotey fo".
     
  2. Dubious

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    You need to define what you consider truth.

    (Because the definition is not absolute)
     
  3. CrazyDave

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    What kind of a guru are you? Is that a real poncho or a sears poncho?
     
  4. moestavern19

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    2+2 = 5.

    If one believes that to be true, and even if you show proof of your theory, you are still operating under the pretense that everything you see before you exists in the same reality you do.

    Or some other Descartes ****.
     
  5. rtsy

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    2 + 2 = 4 did not exist until humans decided it to be true.

    "Things that did not have names before are now easily described. Makes conversation easy."
     
  6. no_answer

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    This is so tricky.
     
  7. justtxyank

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    This is not accurate. That is a label.

    The color red doesn't change if you call it blue, only the label. The color itself is an absolute truth. It is the color we label as red.

    2 things combined with 2 things give you a total of four things. There was a time before humans existed where nobody was there to say that when 2 triceratops met 2 other triceratops there were now four triceratops, but guess what, there still were 4 triceratops.
     
  8. thadeus

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    Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies. - Nietzsche
     
  9. justtxyank

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    And if it doesn't exist in the same reality and this is all some Matrix junk, guess what, that is the absolute truth. No matter what level of perceived truth we put on top of it, at the core of all things is an absolute truth.

    You see the shadows on the wall of the cave and think they are the truth. That you are wrong and they are merely the shadows cast of figures moving in the daylight doesn't mean there is no absolute truth, it just means you didn't perceive it accurately.
     
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  11. No Worries

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    2 + 2 = 4

    would not exist if we had only one finger per hand.
     
  12. Rashmon

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    Hey now, better make a decision.
    Be a moron, and keep your position.
    You oughta know now, all your education,
    won't help you no-how.

    You're gonna wind up workin' in a gas station.
    Wind up workin' in a gas station.
    Wind up workin' in a gas station.
    Wind up workin' in a gas station.

    Pumpin' the gas every night.
    Pumpin' the gas every night.
    Wind up workin' in a gas station.
    Wind up workin' in a gas station.
     
  13. moestavern19

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    No, you're wrong.

    Everything is wrong.
     
  14. weslinder

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    Sure it would. We would write it as 2 + 2 = 11, but it would mean the same thing.
     
  15. Fatty FatBastard

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    I guess according to y'all the Piraha tribe make #'s invalid...

    Brazil tribe prove words count
    When it comes to counting, a remote Amazonian tribespeople have been found to be lost for words.
    Researchers discovered the Piraha tribe of Brazil, with a population of 200, have no words beyond one, two and many.
    The word for "one" can also mean "a few", while "two" can also be used to refer to "not many".

    Peter Gordon of Columbia University in New York said their skill levels were similar to those of pre-linguistic infants, monkeys, birds and rodents.

    He reported in the journal Science that he set the tribe simple numerical matching challenges, and they clearly understood what was asked of them.

    "In all of these matching experiments, participants responded with relatively good accuracy with up to two or three items, but performance deteriorated considerably beyond that up to eight to 10 items," he wrote.

    Language theory

    Dr Gordon added that not only could they not count, they also could not draw.

    "Producing simple straight lines was accomplished only with great effort and concentration, accompanied by heavy sighs and groans."

    The tiny tribe live in groups of 10 to 20 along the banks of the Maici River in the Lowland Amazon region of Brazil.

    Dr Gordon said they live a hunter-gatherer existence and reject any assimilation into mainstream Brazilian culture.

    He added that the tribe use the same pronoun for "he" and "they" and standard quantifiers such as "more", "several" and "all" do not exist in their language.

    "The results of these studies show that the Piraha's impoverished counting system truly limits their ability to enumerate exact quantities when set sizes exceed two or three items," he wrote.

    "For tasks that required cognitive processing, performance deteriorated even on set sizes smaller than three."

    The findings lend support to a theory that language can affect thinking.

    Linguist Benjamin Lee Whorf suggested in the 1930s that language could determine the nature and content of thought.

    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/3582794.stm

    Published: 2004/08/20 12:38:00 GMT


    http://www.jcrows.com/withoutnumbers.html
     
  16. rtsy

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    Yes and no. The color red doesn't really exist until we say it does. It is not independent from the universe. Color only appears as a separate entity to those who divide things up and give them labels. When exactly does a drop of rain become the ocean? Things are what we make them.

    Where does red start and where does it stop?

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  17. Fatty FatBastard

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    I see six colors. How many are you seeing?
     
  18. moestavern19

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    Cats see more colors than we do.
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    Cat's are filthy whoring liars.
     
  20. Qball

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    You guys are too on topic.

    I think it's about time for yet another one of Ronny's hijacked, clutchfans-themed lyrics from random songs. Yep, should be anytime now...
     

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