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[theloveofsports.com]Vernon Maxwell

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Jan 25, 2009.

  1. leebigez

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    Plus he quit on the team. Not tracy mcgrady via moon, he actually quit once the rox traded for clyde after they rescued him of the basketball trash heap.
     
  2. t_mac1

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    tinman, when are you going to do a bob sura appreciation?
     
  3. pmac

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    Question: Who would win in a fight between Ron Artest and Vernon Maxwell? Ron has the height hand weight advantage.




    Answer: I'm thinking mad max. Ron might punch the wrong guy like he did at the Palace.
     
  4. tinman

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    he wanted a contract extension and loss his job.
    Max later made amends with the Rockets organization and Rudy T.

    I remember the good, some people prefer the bad or turn a maxwell thread into a D&D thread about other people's problems.

    Oh leebigez, if Max got paid like Tmac, he wouldn't be mad, he'd even shine Clyde's shoes and wash his jersey.
     
  5. tinman

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    I did one a year ago, look it up. then all of the sudden you have all these bob sura haters out of nowhere.

    i suspect it was the fact that their girlfriend or wife were licking their lips when Bob rolled up at the club in his Ferrari.

    they hated his game. not on the court.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    playa haters. wish we still had sura on our team right now.
     
  7. tinman

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    i still think both of them are good guys who are trying to be the sheperd.

    pulp fiction:
    here's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. I been sayin' that **** for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a mother****er before you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some **** this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that **** ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.
     
  8. tinman

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    i'll try to find that thread again.

    man, Sura on the court was a scraper, diving for loose balls, sticking up for Yao Ming! remember Dallas series?

    And for Max and even Ron,
    why do people think they are getting Will Smith, when you know they are Tupac?
     
  9. DudeWah

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    Tinman,

    I appreciate Maxwell too, but that article you posted to refute what a scum of the earth wasn't a very good one. It was full of quotes of him defending himself and some generalities about labeling and the such.
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    Was Maxwell a great contributer to the Rockets? Yes
    Was he a pathetic excuse for a human being? Yes
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    No one should argue about his years as a Rocket, because he was pretty terrific. However, I will never respect the person that he was. Additionally, not everyone has to like him to appreciate him. Sometimes I feel like you believe the only way to appreciate a player off the championship teams is to worship them.
     
  10. DudeWah

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    Man, Sura was a baller!
    People want to talk about Rafer's "great" defensive abilities.. :rolleyes:
    They obviously never saw Bobby Sura!
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    Dude had as many "intangibles" as Battier and played PG better than Rafer
     
  11. t_mac1

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    bob had the intangibles AND can score. scola comes close but his defense can be porous at times. same with landry.

    rafer can score but so inconsistent.
    battier has a lot of intangibles but can't score to save his life.
     
  12. tinman

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    but some people purposely go on Maxwell threads to talk about his personal life.
    People think Maxwell is Bin Laden.

    People want John Daly to turn his life around, but why not Maxwell?
    cause he's [insert what you think]

    At least he acknowledges he has another son
    Larry Bird doesn't even acknowledge his daughter
    [insert your reasoning here too]

    Nobody talk about Jordan's mistress when someone post a Jordan thread. hmmm

    what a standard we have here.
     
  13. DudeWah

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    Yeah, the trolls are annoying..
    But they'll always be there
     
  14. clos4life

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    Man, Tinman, your love for the 'ship teams is blinding you in this one. Maxwell was an absolute scumbag and unless he is become a Christian or the like he probably remains one.

    Yes, he was an amazing talent on the court. Off the court though I wouldn't want him within a mile of my house or family.

    Yes, Jordan and Larry are not saints either and personally I do the same thing with them I do with Max. Great talents on the court, despicalbe immoral acts off the court. But the stuff Max did way beyond whatever either Jordan/Larry did (that we publicly know off).

    Just because someone else is a scumbag doesn't make it ok to be one. Or to defend one either.
     
  15. Shaud

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    Free Mike Vick! :cool:
     
  16. pmac

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    who give a flyin' f*** about somebody's personal life. I come here to discuss basketball.

    I always think it's stupid when you see people say they love a player because he just seems like a 'great guy', as if they know that person. Truthfully, you don't know jack about these players off the court other than what you read in the paper. I've met plenty of good people that have done wrong in their past and i have met some crappy people who have no record. You know, supposedly, Bruce Bowen is a great guy off the court but i don't like him because he drop kicks people in games. That's what matters to me, basketball.
     
  17. tinman

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    Michael Ray Richardson changed his life.
    I guess some people here wouldn't root for him based on his past.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_17_104/ai_109959086/print?tag=artBody;col1

    Michael Ray Richardson's tough journey leads him back to the NBA

    While the NBA season may have come too soon for some NBA players and coaches who are sweating and playing hard in training camps to gear up for the regular season, it did not come soon enough for Michael Ray Richardson.

    Richardson, 48, who was banned from the league in 1986 for drug use, then pursued a career in Europe, has made a comeback to the NBA as a Community Ambassador for the Nuggets. The four-time All Star, a Denver native, is working at clinics for kids and says coming back to the NBA--and the United States--is a step in the right direction.

    "I think this is a big step," Richardson told JET from his Aurora, CO, home. "This is a perfect job for me and I have my feet in the door with the NBA. I hope this leads to other opportunities ... maybe assisting teams."

    Richardson's sad fall from grace began with his addiction to cocaine. In the early 1980s, the 6-foot-5 Richardson could control a game with his scoring, playmaking and defensive skills, which made him by far one of the best point guards at the time. Drafted in 1978 by the Knicks, he led the league in steals three times. However, the sadly troubled star said he was with the wrong people at too many of the wrong places and soon, basketball was not a priority.

    "If you go looking for trouble, you're going to find it," he said.

    On Feb. 25, 1986, after he tested positive for cocaine a third time, Richardson, who was in his eighth season, became the first player to get banned under the NBA's anti-drug program, which was adopted in September 1983. Richardson was angry at the time of his banishment, but he now acknowledges it may have saved his life.

    Though he was reinstated two years later after he took rehab classes and gained control of his addiction, Richardson signed a basketball contract to play with Bologna of the Italian League in Europe and chose to rebuild his life there.

    "I was already on the right track before I was reinstated; I needed to show everything I was doing for two years," he said. "When I got away, I was able to think about things; I got really focused. Being away made me think of people and life."

    Richardson lived in Italy, Yugoslavia, Israel and France, where he attracted a legion of European fans. His NBA nickname, "Sugar," snowballed into "Sugarmania" overseas where hundreds of shirts, hats and towels were sold bearing the moniker.

    While getting his career and life in order, he met his wife Ilham. They've been married five years (together for 10) and share a home on the French Riviera with their two young children, Michael, Jr., 22 months old, and 6-year-old Kimberly. While in Europe he continued to maintain his Colorado home. Richardson has three other children: daughter Tasha, 27; son Corey, 23; and daughter Tamara, 18.

    "I wasn't angry. I took full responsibility for what I did," said Richardson, who played professional basketball until he was 46. "It was a way to really catch my attention. (NBA Commissioner) David Stern really helped save my life. Unfortunately, it takes what it takes. God has a plan for everybody. Unfortunately that was my plan. I'm still here."

    Richardson met Nuggets general manager Kiki Vandeweghe years ago while Richardson was in the country to see his daughter graduate. Vandeweghe offered him a position if he ever wanted to come back and, well, last July, Richardson began a whole new journey, closing the circle in his life.

    "I'm taking it for what it is. You can't cry over spilled milk. What's done is done. I couldn't give up; I just hung in there and turned things right. Things can always get better if you make that effort."

    COPYRIGHT 2003 Johnson Publishing Co.
    COPYRIGHT 2008 Gale, Cengage Learning
     
  18. clos4life

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    Show me a similar article with Max's name in it and I'll be glad to cheer for him. I'm very high into redemption and turning your life around.

    In the meantime he remains what he has shown all along to be.
     
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    did someone call? i'm here i'm here! i'm the real #11!
     
  20. Kwame

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    Mad Max will always be a hero in my book.
     

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