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Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by stthomsfinest, Aug 20, 2013.

  1. vinsensual

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    Come on, that's just not true. I became a big fan of Ambrose, but he's been on the backburner with creative since his feud with Rollins. When Reigns returned, Ambrose was feuding with Wyatt for who knows why, and was far removed from his breakout phase.
     
  2. sealclubber1016

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    Before they inexplicably sent him off to shoot the movie, Ambrose was getting great reactions from the crowd. Once he came back, they put him in that stupid random angle with Bray Wyatt and it killed his momentum.

    Kids are stupid. They will like whoever you tell them to like. Reigns has been booked as the dominant badass, and so kids and casuals react to him accordingly. If Ambrose had been booked that way he would be getting the great reactions, but unlike Reigns he would actually be liked by both sides.
     
  3. HardenWay

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    1. A big pop on a return is not being over. Being over is the fans reactions for an extended period. People were exciting that he return

    2. Ambrose being on the 'backburner with creative' does not show that is was not more over than Reigns at the time. Using the decisions by the creative team at WWE to show who is more over just shows how little you know. WWE regularly drop the ball with young talent who are getting over.
     
  4. Scolalist

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    Yeah they really have a terrible long history of dropping the ball on young guys like the rock, Shawn michaels, Bret hart, Eddie Guerrero, Edge, Randy Orton, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, Batista, Brock Lesnar, etc etc

    Clearly they don't know what a star is and how to book them
     
  5. 713

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    I was gone for a couple months. What happened with the Bellas feud?
     
  6. sealclubber1016

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    You made my point for me. From 95-05, they were able to successfully develop tons of guys into stars,there were 2-3 new stars every year.

    Since 05, that's a full decade, they have made 2 (Bryan and Punk). I think Rollins is also well on his way, so he may be a 3rd. They have no clue how to develop stars anymore.
     
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    According to Meltzer, its a 3 Way! Brock/Reigns/D Bry. YES YES YES
     
  8. sealclubber1016

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    Meltzer isn't terribly reliable, but this has always been the logical direction so I hope it's true.

    Bryan doesn't have to win the belt. To me, and a lot of other people, this has always been about treating Bryan like he is a big deal, and not some mid-card afterthought, which they haven't been doing. Now not only would this match get 100x more watchable, but there are a million different ways they could book this when you factor in Rollins and his MITB. This should also relieve some of Reigns heat with the smarks.

    If they book this right they could have 3 superstars coming out of mania all in a good place with the fans.
     
  9. Indaface

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    If true I would absolutely love for Bryan to win the title by pinning Reigns...then for Rollins to cash in and become the champ to close out Wrestlemania.


    Rollins honestly deserves it over anyone else based on the past year in my opinion.
     
  10. tmac2therack

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    Yup that would be perfect and then a Bryan/Rollins feud until Summerslam would be epic.
     
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    Daniel Bryan with the Katie Vick reference!
     
  12. Scolalist

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    Since 05 Your forgetting Cena, Batista, Randy Orton, Kurt Angle, Edge, JBL, and the biggest anyone ever got out of Guerrero, Jericho, Benoit and Rey Mysterio, Sheamus, Alberto Del Rio, RVD, etc

    I'd say they are doing a great job with Wyatt, Ziggler, The Usos, Bad News Barrett, Ambrose, Rusev, Cesaro and Tyson Kidd as well.

    They most certainly know what they are doing
     
  13. sealclubber1016

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    All of those guys you mentioned hit the scene around 04-05, thats the reason I used that date. Sheamus and ADR were complete flops as main eventers. Drew McIntyre, ryback, Tensai, The Miz, the list goes on. Virtually everything they do flops now, and that's the reason we constantly have part timers main eventing Wrestlemania. Aside from the guys I mentioned, they have failed to make new stars.

    I and virtually everybody else would disagree that they are doing a good job with the guys you mentioned. I'm beginning to think that you must work for the WWE with some of your opinions.
     
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    Considering all those guys are title holders, in line for title shots or going to face UNDERTAKER at WM. I'd say your just a troll
     
  16. Scolalist

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    Also the guys I mentioned ARE stars.

    They would all sell out and be the biggest star of any other promotion.
     
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  18. Beavis Stiffler

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    NXT Takeover is tomorrow night. It's a stacked card top to bottom. Zayn-Owens and Balor-Neville could be match of the year candidates.

    NXT Championship
    Sami Zayn (c) vs. Kevin Owens
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    NXT Women’s Championship
    Charlotte (c) vs. Bayley vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks
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    NXT Tag Team Championship
    Wesley Blake & Buddy Murphy (c) vs. The Lucha Dragons
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    #1 Contenders Match
    Adrian Neville vs. Finn Balor
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    No Disqualification Match
    Baron Corbin vs. Bull Dempsey
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    Hideo Itami vs. Tyler Breeze
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  19. 713

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    anything happen on raw yesterday?
     
  20. vinsensual

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    If you wanna backpedal and redefine what you said fine. I'm just arguing with your blinded opinion that

    Fans were into Reigns when he returned, and neither Ambrose nor Rollins were breaking out in their roles. Rollins was heel #1 already and Ambrose had been spinning his wheels in a Wyatt feud.
     

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