The worst kind of cancel culture: Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf

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I e never posted that. If you're gonna say I did, at least say where. Don't waste my time

Edit: that's not what I wrote

 

He didn't protest. He didn't stand during the national anthem and the displaying of the flag because he believes it represents oppression. He did this very quietly - what he did was stay in the locker room to not get noticed. A reporter asked him why and he gave an honest answer. That's when it exploded.

Right or wrong, he was standing up for his principle and wasn't calling attention to anything else.

The NBA did what they thought was best for them as a business and as a brand. They have the right to unless it crossed over to discrimination - which it didn't.

Politically and culturally - he was alone, not a single defender but yet he sticks to his principle.

If we are to talk about being canceled (it's a stupid characterization IMO) - he's way up there on the pole of being canceled.

 

I still don't agree on "cancellation " but it's a very good description of what happened

 

You meant disagree on cancel..

"Cancel culture" was a term made popular by the Right, I believe. They hated that some on the Right were being pushed out by society or private companies or whatever else. Of course, it's full of hypocrisy as many on the Right have been doing this for a long time themselves and I think with much more impact (threat of violence or violence itself). It's when social justice got involved that it's become a very bad thing.

I get the term but disagree with it technically and dislike how folks use it too easily. But as I said, if we are to use that term, Abdul-Rauf is way up there on the pole of being canceled.

 

I think "cancelation" and "cancel culture" are valid concepts. The difference now compared to in the past was that there are more tools for people to organize and "cancel" someone they dislike (i.e., make it very difficult for them to have a public life), even when they don't have any direct power over that person. The Right is focused on cancel culture now because it is a threat to the traditional hierarchy of power, and the Left (often) embrace it for the exact same reason.

 

I meant disagree but I agree Republicans are extremely hypocritical about this.

@Sweet Lou 4 2

Is bugging me about not posting in other threads. there are enough anti Republican stupidity posts. They don't need my input

 

who exactly does not understand this?

i was responding to your (inaccurate) claim that the dixie chicks were not cancelled. im not sure what this statement has to do with our back-and-forth.

 

The Dixie Chicks took a political stance. They are country musicians, not political commentators. People disagreed and didn't want to hear their music.

Joe Rogan if canceled would be canceled for what he does. All these other cancellaations are based on what people do for a living. Nobody had a problem with their music. Nobody stopped them from recording music.

Listeners didn't want to hear them and therefore stations stopped playing them. The stations are businesses

 

I don't think I agree with this reasoning.

If the Dixie Chicks said what they said, but in song form, would the reaction have been any different? And if Rogan encouraged people not to vaccinate, but did so off his podcast, is that somehow a more cancelable offense?

 

You're right. I guess I just don't agree with the concept of canceled when the entity doing the canceling is worried about their bottom line.

Anyone who still wanted to listen could do so but we're talking about entertainment businesses (radio stations) dealing with politics.

 

All I did was say he played again and you started your usual bull ish. Be a man and at least own up to it

 

Showtime doc looks back on NBA star who took a stand before anyone took a knee

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Journal/Issues/2023/01/30/Upfront/pop-culture
By Erik Bacharach 1.30.2023

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf has opened up about his tumultuous journey countless times over the years, but there’s still catharsis when he revisits some of the darker periods in his life.

“It’s therapeutic to get this stuff off your chest and present it to the world,” said Abdul-Rauf, the former NBA player who was ostracized in 1996 after refusing to stand for the national anthem in a sign of protest, calling the flag a symbol of oppression. “But it takes a level of vulnerability, a level of rawness.”

That authenticity is featured in “Stand,” Showtime’s newest sports documentary which premieres Feb. 3 at 9 p.m. ET. The film dives deep into the personal struggles of Abdul-Rauf — born Chris Jackson in Gulfport, Miss. — and how he overcame poverty and Tourette syndrome before starring at LSU and showing All-Star-caliber promise in the NBA, only to be cast as a pariah in his sixth season as a pro. “Stand” details his conversion to Islam and his stand against racism and for social justice — plus the backlash that ensued, including the NBA suspending him and his house burning down, for which the KKK was suspected of arson.

“I thought I was going to die every day,” Abdul-Rauf says during an interview featured in the film, which was directed by Joslyn Rose Lyons in her feature-length directorial debut.

The project was an exercise in reflection for the now 53-year-old who sports a gray beard. Abdul-Rauf, who led the Denver Nuggets in scoring by a wide margin in 1996 but was out of the league just two years later, likes to joke that his mouth cost him millions.

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While Kaepernick is not featured in “Stand,” Stephen Curry, Steve Kerr, Shaquille O’Neal, Jalen Rose, Mahershala Ali and Ice Cube are among the basketball and entertainment stars who are interviewed about Abdul-Rauf in the documentary.

“We should have had his back,” Rose says in the film. “But we didn’t.”

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