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the worrisome direction coach RA leads this team to

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by waihh, Mar 24, 2010.

  1. Kindger

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    You are so wrong on this that I don't even know where to start. All I can say is, listen to our GM, our coach and our defensive expert like Battier.
     
  2. Angkor Wat

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    LMAO. Not fair. You can't even compare the two teams because talent disparity between the two.

    Yeah, because JVG is the GM right? You guys are hilarious. Blame the roster on JVG. He was calling shots. Did we have Morey with JVG? When did we start finding gems in late drafts? The day Darly Morey arrived. Seriously, its a joke to compare the two rosters. But yeah, disregard that JVG too lesser talent teams to the playoffs 3 out of 4 times.

    Both are great coaches. I don't see why we can't see that. Why does one have to be better than the other? Rick is doing great things with this current roster and JVG got the best we could out of those rosters. I think both coaches were perfect for the situation that they were in. We needed a hard nosed defensive coach to clamp things down after Rudy letting the "inmates run the asylum". After lack of playoff success and more injuries letting us down, we needed a change. Hence bringing in an offensive coach like Rick.
     
  3. choujie

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    Bullcrap again.

    Talent wise:
    AB+Scloa+Landry(Martin) + Lowry +Battier + Ariza >>>>>>>>>> Rafer +JHO +Bogans + Head

    It's not even close.
     
  4. crash5179

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    Love how you conveniently forget about guys like David Wesley and Deke plus the simple fact that TMac and Yao both played over half the season.
     
  5. Yetti

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    THIS UPCOMING OFFSEASON.......
    This team needs to change direction
    Before it is too late!
    Adelman-OUT
    Tom Thibodeau -IN
    Bring in Bosh and David Lee!
    Bring in a Playmaker Point Guard!
    Bring back a healthy Yao Ming!
    Go after Talent with height and athleticism. :p
     
  6. crash5179

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    So you are saying that JVG had no input on players like Clearance Weatherspoon, Mark Jackson, Charles Oakley and Charlie Ward. It's just a coincidence that CD went out and picked those guys up even though they were all ex JVG players prior to joining the Rockets?

    You are saying that it's just coincidence that JVG is a defensive minded coach and every year he was hear the Rockets the added more and more players with defensive skills but no poor offensive skills Ryan Bowen, Keith Bogans etc... ?
     
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  7. Karolik

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    Kobe obviously is >> then anyone on the current rockets...However offensively the lakers had crap. We have martin, brooks, and scola...all decent scorers. Who did the lakers have? Kobe Bryant and lamar odom who was averaging about as much as scola now (15 ppg). Bynum was still a scrub back then and so was the rest of the team. So no, Phil Jackson did not have much better players, probably about the same.
     
  8. crash5179

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    BOOOOOO!

    Adelman has been great the team and so why trade or change directions. We just got out of the first round last season for the first time in over a decade and now you want to blow it all up?
     
  9. Steve_Francis_rules

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    It's no more of a travesty to compare those teams than to compare the defensive performance of a team with and without a 7'6" center clogging the lane and then blame the coach for the difference.
     
  10. Karolik

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    Forgot to mention lamar odom and kwame brown both also missed a lot of games..
     
  11. choujie

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    Deke only really impacted the game in one half when Yao went down, and Wesley was obviously not the same player compared to previous season.

    You can add those guys in and the talent level is still not comparable. Still not even close.
     
  12. crash5179

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    Defensively speaking... JVG's team was twice as talented. There is no arguing that. Deke coming on after Yao went down? Well of course because we had Yao...

    Of course you continue to ignore the fact that we had Yao and TMac for over half the season that year.
     
  13. RoxBeliever

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    I don't think a team that values defensive specialists like Battier and Hayes is a team that doesn't want to play defense. We are just too handicapped size-wise to compete.

    Before the trade, we were complaining about Battier, Ariza, and Hayes on the starting unit. No offense, we said. The trade tried to solve one part of the offense problem. We were trying to figure out the defense with this retooled squad before Battier's injury, and were quite successful in stretches.

    With Battier out, the defense which has not been solid this year has totally collapsed. It's that simple.
     
  14. choujie

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    Of course that team has more defensive talent. They were a top defensive team despite missing key players.
    but that doesn't matter, we are talking about overall talent.

    This years team overall has way more talent than that year. You'd take Scola/AB/Lowry/Landry/Martin/Battier/Ariza over anybody not named Yao/Tmac(Deke only averaged 15 minuts that season) in that team, and Yao/Tmac only played half season each.
     
  15. crash5179

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    Actually Yao only missed 25 games which is not really close to missing half the season.
     
  16. choujie

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    And it's actually the problem right now. Over the years, this team went from too defensive centralized to too offensive centralized.

    The way I look at it, AB/Martin/Ariza/Scola/Yao just won't make the team defense back to elite level. Defense will be good enough for playoffs, but not Championships.

    No disrespect to RA here, he can coach defense with right defensive players, just like JVG can also coach offense with right offensive players.
     
  17. choujie

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    Doesn't really matter. The games when both Yao/Tmac played, they had very good record.
    That makes DD's statement worthless. He was comparing overall record of this year to that year and try to say RA>>JVG without looking at what players JVG had when he lost all those games.

    There were quite many games both Tmac/Yao couldn't play. I don't see how RA could win with Rafer/JHo as the 1st/2nd option on his team.
     
  18. crash5179

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    Ariza and Yao are both very good defensive players. Hill (antoher year older), Hayes, Battier and Lowry off of the bench could be very good defensively. Who will we get in the draft?
     
  19. choujie

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    That's why I try to make a case for Lowry/Martin(or AB)/Ariza/Scola/Yao instead of AB/Martin/Ariza/Scola/Yao. That lineup will be better defensively and will still have enough offensive talent.
     
  20. IamKhan

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    I hope we can learn from the champion Spurs team. They had Parker and Manu back court combos and TD's front court partner was not always a good defender.
     

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