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The Who On Tour

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by rimrocker, Jul 14, 2006.

  1. CBrownFanClub

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    Which is not saying that much, but they were really really good that night; their music was pitch-perfect for post 9/11. "Won't get Fooled Again" was written for that.

    Paul sucked especially that night, not as bad as Jimmy Fallon though.
     
  2. Dubious

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    I don't know, we still get around (on walkers maybe), things still look awful cold (worse probably), I still hope I die before I get old (as a state of mind or body)

    There is not any thing there that is obsolete or out of context to me:


    My Generation

    people try to put us d-down (talkin''bout my generation)
    just because we get around (talkin''bout my generation)
    things they look so awful c-cold (talkin''bout my generation)
    I hope I die before I get old (talkin''bout my generation)

    my generation
    my generation, baby

    why don't you all f-fade away (talkin''bout my generation)
    and don't try to dig what we all s-say (talkin''bout my generation)
    I'm not tryin' to cause a big, sensation (talkin''bout my generation)
    I'm just talkin''bout my g-g-generation (talkin''bout my generation)

    my generation
    my generation,baby

    why don't you all f-fade away (talkin''bout my generation)
    and don't try to dig what we all s-say (talkin''bout my generation)
    I'm not tryin' to cause a big, sensation (talkin''bout my generation)
    I'm just talkin''bout my motherf*cking generation (talkin''bout my generation)

    my generation
    my generation, baby

    people try to put us d-down (talkin''bout my generation)
    well, just because we g-get around (talkin''bout my generation)
    things they look so awful c-cold (talkin''bout my generation)
    Yes, I hope I die before I get old (talkin''bout my generation)

    my generation
    my generation, baby
     
  3. luckystrikes

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    I hear that's not all he's showing them.....
     
  4. rimrocker

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    Clever.

    Read the article...

     
  5. Dubious

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    I don't care what anybody looks at ( I do care about who actually makes child p*rn, they need to be shot), but his motivation could still be open to debate . Admittedly I never really knew what these lyrics were about and knowing Townshend it's probably autobiographical and self-deprecatiing, but the song does sorta give me the creeps.

    PETE TOWNSHEND lyrics - "Rough Boys"

    Tough boys
    Running the streets
    Come a little closer
    Rough toys
    Under the sheets
    Nobody knows her
    Rough boys
    Don't walk away
    I very nearly missed you
    Tough boys
    Come over here
    I wanna bite and kiss you

    I wanna see what I can find
    Tough kids
    Take a bottle of wine
    When your deal is broken
    Ten quid
    She's so easy to find
    Not a word is spoken
    Rough boys
    Don't walk away
    I'm still pretty blissed here
    Tough boy
    I'm gonna carry you home
    You got pretty pissed dear

    Gonna get inside you
    Gonna get inside your bitter mind

    Rough boys
    Don't walk away
    I wanna buy you leather
    Make noise
    Try and talk me away
    We can't be seen together
    Tough kids
    What can I do?
    I'm so pale and weedy
    Rough fits
    In my Hush Puppy shoes
    But I'm still pleading

    Tough boys
    Running the streets
    Come a little closer
    Rough toys
    Under the sheets
    Nobody knows her
    Rough boys
    Don't walk away
    I very nearly missed you
    Tough boys
    Come over here
    I wanna bite and kiss you
     
  6. KellyDwyer

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    I understand the creepiness, and although his interest in writing some sort of rock opera or play based on a kid getting molested is documented, I can understand the "what the hell?" reaction when you hear about "visiting a child p*rnography site for research purposes."

    That said, anyone who's ever had a man-crush can understand "Rough Boys." The "boys" in this instance are in their early 20s, but compared to Pete at the time of writing, they were still boys. From a different generation, going at music an entirely different way. Mock me all you want for the man-crush thing, but that's all it's about (even though Pete is on the record as bi). It's not so much that he wanted to be or screw or be friends with or take down Paul Weller -- it's that sort of confusion that has driven Pete's lyrics from the get-go.

    Great song, wonderful album. Great cover photo, too.
     
  7. Sishir Chang

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    I know all about getting old, just read some of my Judo threads and you'll see how much I'm wrestling with age. I can't do a lot of the stuff that I could do even 10 years ago and there's a lot of stuff that I shouldn't be doing.

    Rock-n-Roll is about living wild and hard. The Who not only did that but were also were the ultimate angry young man band. It just seems grotesque to see a wrinkly Roger Daltry and balding death Pete Townshend trying to capture the energy of "Young Man Blues" or the anger and testerone driven angst of "Quadraphenia".

    FYI I recommend using "Asian" instead of "Oriental". "Oriental" is considered offensive by some but in general is considered dated like "Negro." Yes we do revere elders but we revere them for their dignity and wisdom, not for still trying to act like rebellious teens.

    Pete can tour all he wants I'm not about to deny him the right to I'm sugesting he might want to reconsider and I'm not planning on seeing him. I actually wouldn't mind him doing a Polka album but I would like to see him doing more classical work. I still think he's a musical genius but trying to recapture the stage energy of Pete Townshend in his 20's and 30's shouldn't be what he is doing.

    There styles are different and their music wasn't mostly about being angry young men nor were their performances.
     
  8. Sishir Chang

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    Don't expect to see anything remotely like this these days. The Pete Townshend of today trying to jump up and down and windmilling is a parody of the Pete Townshend in that pic.
     
  9. rimrocker

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    If I happen to catch Drexler at a pick up game somewhere or Magic Johnson at a BBall exhibition I don't expect them to be doing windmill jams but the simple act of seing them on the court brings back all the memories of bball and why I watched them... grace, skill, artistry... just as seeing Pete and Roger on stage would rekindle the memories of teenage angst, rebellious youth, the freedom of cruising your hometown on a Saturday night with your new 8-track player blaring Who's Next. At this stage it's as much about memory as the actual.
     
  10. BMoney

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    The Who were so huge for me in my 20's...I still bought all of Pete Townshend's solo albums and I even got into "It's Hard" and "Face Dances" to an extent. I think I cooled on Pete with the "Psychoderelict" album. It just felt flat and I remember thinking that this music wasn't made for me anymore. No big deal, but Pete felt a bit too pretentious to me after that. I still love the Who and many of Pete's solo albums ("White City" and "All the Best Cowboys Have Chinese Eyes" are really underrated), but the whoring reunion tours and shilling of their classic songs in ads took a lot of the lustre away from them in my view. Having said that, I thought they kicked ass when I saw them in 1989 and 2000, so I shouldn't be too bitter. It was great to see John Entwhistle's awesome bass solo and it was a real dream to see them play songs like "5:15" and "The Relay." If the Who, or what's left of them, want to carry on until their are just Pete's brain in a jar running a Who jukebox then who is tell him/them/it to stop? I hope the Who come down here to New Zealand..I would see them even if they probably aren't 1/20th of the band they used to be.

    If you want to see a current band who are the Sh*t right now...go see the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. One of the best concerts I've ever been to.
     
  11. KellyDwyer

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    SC, with respect, people are allowed their own definitions of what rock and roll "is." So your guidelines may work with your own decisions, but we're under no obligation to follow along.

    Also, "Young Man Blues" is a Mose Allison song, done relatively tongue-in-cheek, and he's a much older jazz pianist whose records are WELL worth scoping out.

    And, to me -- more than anything, Pete's lyrics have always been about confusion, at whatever age. Nothing defines this better, to me, than "Quadrophenia." If Pete were wearing a leather jacket onstage and flipping people off, then I might think it a reach. But to me, his music and songs still represent the same things they did represented 40 years ago: the confusing life of a psuedo-intellectual in modern times.
     
  12. Dubious

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    I stand corrected, I remember in the early 60's my grandma referred to someone as a Nigra, she thought she had made a leap to a more gentile term. It's just an ignorance of others sensitivity rather than anything derogatory.

    In the future I should be referred to as 'most respected elder whitey' when you want me to stop doing windmill jumps off the bar, cause I can still do'em.
     
  13. Sishir Chang

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    You got it most respected elder whitey!
     
  14. Dubious

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    They had a three song set by the Who at the Ilse of Wight festival last night on INHD. I don't know if it was this summer or last but it was pretty recent and they rocked the masses. Pete had a bit of banter where he asked is it too loud? who in the crowd lived here on the Island? (He got a smattering of response) He said " well I guess your parents, who are probably a bit younger than us must be having a quiet evening at home .....now turn this mutha****er up! We've been doing this 3000 years and it ain't killed us.

    True Pete got no airtime on his jumps but he just buzzsaw ripped through the guitar breaks and Daltry was in fine, strong voice. I think the kid on the drums was Ringo's kid, he was adequate if a little inantimate and the bass player was the spitting image of Entwhistle. It was a show not to be missed if at all possible.

    The warm up bands were, Delayer (I think) Susan Vega (?) The Manic street Preachers (OK) Sno Patrol (OK) and The Charletans (pretty damn good).

    The new Who album come out August 1:

    [​IMG]
     
  15. RocketMan Tex

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    Zak Starkey is a great drummer. He played with them in 2000 when I saw the Who at the Woodlands. Has also worked with Oasis. Very Keith Moon influenced. Pino Palladino is a monster bass player (Just ask Jeff) and has worked with a ton of people. He was the bass player when I saw Pete's solo show with a 15 piece band at the Wiltern Theatre in 1993.
     
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    see me......


    feeeeeel me



    touch me........



    heal me..................

    Woodstock (Tommy- rock opera) baby!
     
  17. Dubious

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    I've been downloading some Charlatans UK this morning after seeing them last night. Their 1997 CD 'Tellin' Stories' is pretty awesome.

    The 2006 'Simpatico' is pretty good but the older one is great rock music.
     

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