The Warriors Loss Shows Why You Cannot Build a CONSISTENT Championship Team That Relies on the Three

I mean, yeah.

 

The Rockets would love to swap teams. The Warriors look set to be very competitive for the next 3-4 years.

They lost Game 7 because Curry played Hero ball at the end with his TO and missed shots but losing Bogut really hurt them. They had to play Ezeli and Varejao who were both awful.

They don't really need a low post threat but someone that actually played big from time to time really helps. So pretty sure backup Center and Backup PF will be a priority in the off season for them.

 

That was the game they blew out the cavs by 33 - everyone had a + next to them.

In all the other games he was 0 or negative. So when it counted, he was a net detriment to the team. I don't think they lost much sleep losing him. He hardly played and really was just filler minutes.

 

This. If Draymond had not gotten suspended, the series would have ended in Game 5. Losing Bogut was HUGE. They had virtually no rim protection without him. If they keep the same team and barring injury to a key role player (i.e Bogut or Iguodala), GS will win the championship next year.

 

This thread is stupid because there's no such thing as a consistent champion. Warriors have made the finals twice in a row coming out of the West, even if they hadn't won anything both years, that is hugely successful and should be emulated.

 

They had to play Ezeli and Varejao around 10 mins each and both of them sucked. Being a 0 or a slight negative is fine as it lets them rest Draymond a little from playing the 5 too long or Barnes at the 4 too long.

It's a steep drop off from Bogut on the Warriors.

 

Lol that you needed them to show you that

 

The cavaliers losing the title last year proved that lebron couldn't win a title. The Thunder losing in the western conference finals this year proved that you can't win a title built around durant. All context is irrelevant.

 

I agree. Consistency is what you need. This is why Cleveland won. Just ignore the first couple of games where they were blown out by 15 and 33 points. Just look at when they came back and won by 30 in Game 3. Now that there is consistency. :grin:

 

I can take a championship and a final for any given 10 years.:grin:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5zgzn1MYx4

 

Lol, perfect

 

Lebron deserves MVP because he does everything (offense, defense, assists) for the Cavs. Harden on the other hand lacks defense so bad to even be considered a superstar. Harden is merely an all star player because he is one dimensional.

The Rockets need a superstar. The team only has one all star at this point.

 

I wanted LeBron to win and was tired of the Dub Nation hype. However, the Warriors would've won game 5 had Draymond not got suspended. Also, Bogut being hurt impacted them as well. I also thought Richard Jefferson did an excellent job slowing down Rocket killer Shawn Livingston.

Keys to CAV's Championship
1. LeBron playing out of his mind in games 5 - 7
2. Draymond suspended for Game 5
3. Bogut getting hurt
4. CAV's made Curry play D almost every possession and bumped him every chance (what do we do, we tell Pat, stay in the corner and let Curry rest on D.)
5. Kyrie gave LeBron that much needed 2nd scorer.

 

Christ. They were 60 decent seconds away from winning a second title in a row. If they were unsuitable to be champions, they'd be unexpectedly flaming out in the second round, or they'd be losing in five after cruising through the other rounds.

This series proves that defense still wins championships, and that's about it.

 

It's just one turnover......isnt it?


If you are a die-hard James Harden apologist then you simply have to blow off this turnover as part of what you get with a "great playmaker".

But.......The truth is a championship playmaker does not commit this turnover. Not does he commit a historic record of 13 turnovers in a game or 376 turnovers in a season. No matter how much pressure he is under.

DO YOU REALIZE THAT NO PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA HAS EVER WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WHILE AVERAGING OVER 4 TURNOVERS A GAME IN THE POST SEASON?

None. Zip. Zilch. E-V-E-R

So blow this turnover off all you want. This was Curry's 75th turnover in 18 post season games. It was over the line. The fine line between winning and losing. And this turnover plus a couple others cost him and the Warriors a title.

You guys that are Harden apologists, that think he's capable of winning a championship as his game is right now, please understand. My signature is not an attempt to belittle the man. I do not want to see him traded under any circumstances. But the fact is Harden turns the ball over too much for us to be able to win a championship as our primary playmaker.


The Warriors and Steph Curry proved once again that you cannot build a consistent championship team without a primary playmaker that keeps his turnovers down below a maximum threshold.

.......not in relation to his usage but in relation to his steals and assists and games played. Because turnovers are a game event, not a usage event, in their capacity to make or break a team.


Now go take a look at Hardens turnovers since we ditched Lin and Parsons for Bev and Ariza and traded our first round pick for his boy, Lawson. And convince yourself that Harden needs to accept a primary playmaker and move off the ball at least half the time he is on court. Because that is the first thing that this team needs to accomplish to have any chance of winning a championship in the Harden era.

 

What it shows us is that games still have to be played. Just because media and experts along with the record breaking season all agreed GSW were the best and would waltz to another championship, they actually had to play the games.

It's why no Rockets opponent should be taken for granted, and no Rockets win should go unappreciated. There should be none of this "Yeah, we won but it was against the 76ers" Crap that happens during the season.

Nor should there be any of this "Our next five games are against sub-.500 teams so we should improve our record back to where it belongs."

Games have to be played, and any team in the NBA can beat any other team on a given night. It's not always likely, but it can happen.

It also showed us something we should have already learned. Don't quit when you're down.

 

This is some of the stupidest analysis I've ever been unfortunate enough to read. The Warriors WON the 'ship last year. They went to a game 7 where they lost by 2 points in a tightly contested game. That's with Curry playing like a poopoo platter the entirety of the series. If he had played at least average they win another 'ship.

And Harden, in that same team, wins a 'ship guaranteed.

 

This has to be the stupidest response ever. Harden playing the way he played this past season on the Warriors would have gotten the Warriors beat against the Thunder or earlier. Because Harden turns the ball over too much. He throws it away forcing the play to the rim too much.

Curry playing like a poo-poo platter would not have mattered if he had 3 less turnovers. And a large part of him playing like a poo-poo platter was him turning the ball over too much.

You MIGHT be able to call this analysis stupid when the first player in over 60 years of championship basketball wins a championship while averaging over 4 turnovers a game in the post season. Until then it's pretty stupid to ignore over 60 years of NBA history.

What you might want to do here is to do some further analysis into turnovers to better understand how they affect winning and losing games, playoff series, and championships.

zcarenow's gif is spot on.