The Warriors Loss Shows Why You Cannot Build a CONSISTENT Championship Team That Relies on the Three

all the finals shows is that we need another superstar on this team like KD to win a chip since we can't go the route of Spurs (coaching, hof players) and Larriors (lucky in draft).

If we don't get KD this off-season, we should look to rebuild... especially if KD goes to a rival team in the west.

 

Truer words were never spoken. I'm not sure if Lebron lobbied the NBA but Klay's usual push offs were getting called in game 7. If you watch most of the wide open Klay threes, they are either because Bogut is holding a rotating defender, Draymond is sticking his butt out and moving his legs, Klay pushes off on a defender fighting over the screen or all of the above.

What GSW were doing all season and the playoffs were suddenly being called as fouls

 

5 blocked shots and +10 in game 2.. His inside presence and size is enough to make Bron/Kyrie think twice.. More importantly, his dirty play is what they missed. Serves the bugger right

 

But they won last year case closed

 

But now it's fair to ask if the Warriors won in large part due to the injuries sustained by their competition. Keep in mind that the teams who caused Golden State the most trouble last year were the Grizzlies and Cavs. Both had 2-1 leads over the Warriors and both were very physical ballclubs. It's arguable that one of those teams might've won their respective series had key players(Conley, Allen, Irving, Love) not been injured or banged up.

Fast forward to this season and the Warriors barely survived against the Thunder and eventually lost to the Cavs. Again, two very physical ballclubs. The blueprint for beating them is pretty clear. You're not gonna outshoot or outscore them which unfortunately is what Les seems to be aiming for with the D'Antoni hire. You have to overpower them and wear them down.

BTW, I disagree that you can't be a consistent contender if you're relying heavily on the 3-pointer.....provided you have an interior offensive threat. The Warriors lack that. Previous champs that shot a crapload of 3's(Shaq's Lakers, Dream's Rockets, Duncan's Spurs, and now LeBron's Cavs) had that dominant post player you could dump the ball into when you needed a bucket. As long as you have that balance, you can take a lot of long-range shots.

 

The is one of the best post I've read in a long time


The NBA seems to chase storylines. As soon as Ayesha Curry tweeted the NBA is rigged & Curry threw his mouthpiece at a fan, GS lost all favor with the NBA. All the little advantages they got away with ALL season were no longer there. It was a even playing field and allowed Cleveland to keep close all game.

 

Bogut only played about 16 mpg in the playoffs. His loss was not as important as the crappy performance of Barnes.

If Harrison Barnes didn't shoot like Corey Brewer, GS would have won. You can see how the Cavs defense simply left Barnes to shoot. That gave them an extra defender to bother Curry.

 

LOL way to use one loss to make an entire argument:

1. GSW just lost 1 game more than the Cavs, at this point its just the breaks of the game if you replay this game 1000 times will Cavs always win? Disregarding the way the shots fell tonight and luck of the players who played GSW broke the regular season record and brought their team all the way to the finals. If anything it shows a 3 pointer team works in the new era of the NBA.

2. They won the ring last year it's already a moot argument. People can argue about how injuries hit the Cavs hard last year but then again the 3 pt style limits injuries from the shooters, they avoid contact that a mid range jumper usually need to fish for. Shooting a wide open 3 is less taxing on the ankles than shaking and baking to open space for a mid range J, and you avoid the cheap shot fouls dirty players like Bogut and Green usually do.

3. One of the heroes in tonight's game was JR smith, who hit 2-3 3 pointers to keep the game close in the 3rd quarter. If it weren't for that they would've lost this game.

TLDR: The 3 isn't going anywhere, good teams have to take and make a ton of these shots.

 

After GS lost, I just thought...

The Charles Barkleys of the world will now rejoice.

 

Ironic that this game was won by the clutch shot from Kyrie Irving...From 3...

The Warriors were beaten...and thoroughly. Losing "Bogus"...hurt them. But I think the 7 game grueling series against the Thunder did more damage than we'd like to admit. The refs really allowed the Cavs to play physically against a "soft" Golden State perimeter. The let the best player in the game...body his opponents...

The Cavs did what the greats of the game said needed to be done against the Warriors. Beat them by remaining big and dominate the boards. Shots they usually make werent there. Curry tried to be a hero...and the Warriors collapsed under his bad decisions. Lebron and his Cavs stole a title against overwhelming odds.

 

Run this Finals series 10 times in a row, and I think the Warriors win the championship at least 6 times.

The better team doesn't always win. And I'm glad this time they didn't.

 

The cavs just won 4 out of 5 games against them. If you believe the dubs would win 60% against cavs what is the probability of cavs winning 4/5?

 

Nothing wrong with a GSW team that has been crazy dominant for the past 2 seasons. They just happened to play against that freak of nature known as Lebron James.

I don't know too many team sports where a single player can affect the outcome of a series as much as basketball. For us, it was Hakeem in those two championship years.

 

If my math is incorrect, 7.7%, setting aside HCA and all the other suspension/injury factors that impacted the series.

 

It just shows that greatest teams are the most versatile.

The Cavs shot a good number of 3's this season too... at a great percentage... so its still going to be a vital weapon for any team looking to contend.

However, the game ALWAYS slows down in the post-season... and the ability to execute in the half-court set (and not simply rely on crazy 3 pointers to go in) is the key to post-season success, along with consistent defense/rebounding.

The Warriors were ultimately affected by the game getting more physical, and losing some of their bigs/length due to injury. However, they can still play a half-court game at a high level... whether or not the Rockets can adopt that sort of versatility remains to be seen (especially from a defensive end along with a half-court/slow-down game standpoint).

 

GARM been trash for half a decade now.

 

More like dirty players dont deserve to win

 

The Warriors lost the series after being up 3-1. They should have won the series regardless of how they play offense. They were good enough to win a championship last year. They were good enough to win 73 games in the regular season. They were good enough to beat a team with Durant and Westbrook. They were good enough to go up 3-1 against the Cavs. They blew it. They should have won.

But, I think the Warrors are a very good team, and are in great shape for the future. Let's face it, the Cavs stepped up and came back and won the series. Props to them, but I don't think the Warriors need to blow up their team, or change they way they play. The Warrors blew it after being up 3-1, let's see how they respond next season. I think the Warriors will do well.

What I'm wondering, is how the hell are the Rockets going to improve enough to be be able to compete with either the Warriors or the Cavs. Morey has a lot of work to do.

 

What an over reaction lol. The way the Warriors play is a very viable way to win. Want to know why? Because in this entire series put together they only lost by 4 points. They took 82 more threes than the Cavs, and made 38 more threes than the Cavs. The Warriors shot very well from three the entire series.

Green F'N kept them in the game by hitting 6 threes in the first half!! Irving WON the game on a three!!! Just because Curry takes an unstable amount of threes at the most inopportune times it doesn't mean the way the Warriors generally player can't net you a damn championship because FFS the Spurs, Heat, and damn Warriors all won the championship in recent time by being GREAT from threes.

Curry and Thompson went 6-24 from three at the worse time, but if they went 8-24 then we would be singing a different tune.

and I for one.. would expect those two to combine for at least 8-24 instead of 6-24 from three in a game more often that not. Dumb argument. You get a good team with excellent three point shooters, you put them in a position to shoot good looks, you become a lethal team. Not that hard to comprehend.

 

For those complaining about Morey's "system" or even Pringles... I think they are both the same (it is actually philosophy of most teams):

On offense
(1) get easy, uncontested baskets (a PnR system with Harden & Howard SHOULD have been devastating, but someone wanted to show off their non-existent post moves)
(2) if you have a 3 pointer vs. mid-range, take the 3 (especially if it is uncontested)
(3) get FTs (helps your team, hurts the other team) (problem is you have to make them)

On defense
(1) prevent easy baskets (problem with Pringles' system is that he doesn't care if the other team scores, he just wants to outscore them - also what GSW seemed to focus on)
(2) deny 3, but release after contesting (leaves you undermanned for rebounds, but offers fast break chances)