If you want to identify with what Islam is all about from these extremists then so be it.……BUT if you do that, you are being as ignorant as those who follow the religion in that approach…you’re calling out the entire religion because a minority group has developed an extremist version of the religion...... You’re going to have to understand that there is a foundation of what Islam is built on….what these extremists have done is created an extension of it based on their culture/environment…the religion allows you to do this…thus the extremist element exists…...simple as that. This just killed the legitimacy of the article….
I very much appreciate that you are consistent in applying your standards in this instance. I don't think there are many others who are as consistent. I also appreciate that you don't whitewash the relevance of other considerations which might be somewhat less than altruistic. The other day I listened to John Bolton on the BBC give a rationale for which countries merit preemptive invasion - basically that we should invade Iran and North Korea tomorrow and let the rest of the world go to hell. I don't agree with the man in the least, but I found his arguments to be much more refreshing than, "Look at how stupid the mooslims are." He clearly stated that under no circumstances would he intervene in Darfur because the country would never be a threat to the USA. Very callous, but at least rational. If you want to blow up Iran because you are scared of them, don't try to pretend like you are bombing them to free the poor downtroden population out of universal human kindness.
wow...just wow. I'm literally stunned as to how someone can write utter lies. Using the .01% of Muslims to represent all of Islam is one thing but this is just....I don't have the words for it. It seems this country has its own extremists.
I don't understand why its a big deal. Its their culture. It doesn't make sense to judge another culture/person from your own perspective. They have different moral values and if they see it befit to stone someone for adultery so be it. In America, you jail someone for life for stealing a lawnmower or smoking mar1juana or you execute r****ds and no one really cares. You have the highest rates of people in the prison system and disproportionate number of black people locked up. You have crime rates that are hundred times more than anything in Europe or the Middle East and thus you call for an full scale invasion to save these poor people who have committed the exact same types of moral breaches as committed in the US. Glass houses people. The faux interest of these people calling for greater rights in the Middle East just derives from a lack of personal moral relativism.
Some ignorant posters may question why I have called for attention to this, and it is true that not all believe in Sharia law there, and not all connect reasoning of the mutilation/degradation of their women...So what is the point of my speak?...The truth is I cringe to hear this and elsewhere in the world. It is unfortunate I have not addressed Darfur or the world wide scope involving peril to human rights,....But what I am talking about and have been consistent on...is the relation with the war on terror and those that contribute to terror...Such countries which demonstrate such a coorelation is Iran in the connection of the declared terrorist groups they harbor, and the actions such groups have exhibited against us when the opportunity has presented its'self... Ask yourself,...what is the backbone,...the reasoning,...the motivation of the terroristic activities?...That's right kids. It all comes down to their twisted and sick view of Islam... In this thinking, Sharia law is the only law for the whole wide world,...women? Surely the Qur'an allows such condemnation...In essence, violent oppression...homosexuals?,...they don't exist...and if they do exist,...then sooner than later, they won't (and it will likely be horrific)... So the danger is clear when you have the President of Iran who thinks mightily similar to the above...The danger is clear when you have a governmental process built on an archaic twisted religion as "supremes" and "deciders"...The danger is clear when those in the left choose to be silent on the ties that bind... A dangerous connection is obvious with the governmental support of the violent oppression of women, with the basis of motivation of terroristic groups...It all arrives at the same thing: the sick and twisted basis of Islam religion... Islam doesn't have to be like this, and shouldn't be represented that way...Hopefully Sharia law will cease and lessen,...perhaps that day we shall see the middle-eastern based terroristic machine do the same coincidentally...
No there is cultural difference, and there is enlightenment or lack there of. Just as if a culture had slavery that doesn't make it OK for that culture and nobody else should be concerned. We are talking about human beings being abused. It doesn't matter what culture that is, it isn't OK.
When any one human group is oppressed by another, it is wrong. Stoning a woman for adultry is not equal treatment and a goes against the current world thinking - not just western thinking, but across the global family of nations. But I do not think their culture or religion should be condemned. Instead, people need to see simply that it is wrong and needs to be changed, and why this is wrong by their own standards of a pursuit of truth - which every religion espouses. If you believe that all religions teach fundamental messages of seeking truth, then all religions are incompatiable with the idea of stoning a woman for adultry. I think the region has some catching up to do to the rest of civilization...nearly every culture in history was once patrichial, so it's more of a point of evolution rather that a permanent state of Islam or the regional culture.
If the south wants slaves, who cares? It's their own choice. If people want to be cannibals, or have human sacrifices, or screw 5 year old little girls and boys - hey, it's their own choice! Mind your own business. That would be a great world to live in.
Islam's oppression of women CERTAINLY is not limited to .01% of it's population. It is widespread and institutionalized in its support. Qazi, talk about being disingenuous... no cred
I agree that much of the 'muslim' world is filled with hatemongers and those that would abuse women and such for their own power and ignorance. I do believe though that the examples are from horribly poor, uneducated regions which have deeper cultural roots that are intertwined with religion. I distinctly remember the Puritans treatment of women in the US and the salem witch trials. I think with education comes knowledge, but its islam and the moderates role to curb these backwards, looney, poor segments. Its Ironic though that the US has never had a woman leader versus these examples: Indonesia, the most populous Muslim-majority country, elected Megawati Sukarnoputri as president Pakistan, the second most populous Muslim-majority country, twice (non-consecutively) elected Benazir Bhutto as prime minister Bangladesh, the third most populous Muslim-majority country, elected Khaleda Zia and Sheikh Hasina as prime ministers Turkey, the fifth most populous Muslim-majority country, elected Tansu Çiller as prime minister
I think this is a fallback that obsfucates the fact that many of these 'hatemongers' don't live in the Middle East, but in the westernized world. Also, most of the 9/11 attackers weren't poor. And I'm not sure exactly what talking about witch trials three or four hundred years ago has to do with the argument. This doesn't prove anything. Each of these are states where there is extreme tension between secular and Islamic forces, and societies where women remain significantly actively repressed. That a woman hasn't been voted into the White House is completely different than women being actively repressed.
I'd rather not have her be the first US female president. But of course she's resorted to attempting to bribe the American public by offering $5,000 in scholarships for every baby born and a US 401k with the government matching a $1,000 a year. Why doesn't she just say she'll send every American a check for $2,000 if she wins!! Great campaign slogan!
