Never said he was on that level. I was providing an example of a quality undrafted player. I was just saying just because a guy is undrafted does not mean he can't develop into a very good NBA player. Other examples have been listed in another thread by another poster: Brad Miller Ben Wallace Avery Johnson Udonis Haslem David Wesley John Starks Bruce Bowen I'm not worried about you giving him his due, I was just making a point about undrafted players. But I agree that I want to see how he develops as well. Personally I think he should try to mold himself like Rondo, who also lacks a jumper and still thrives on sagging defenses. But a win is a win, and this is good news for all us Clutchfans
stuff paying dues rookie rubbish... we dont have that luxury 1 - 5 record the player who makes the team play best
I do agree about the play-maker part. AB definitely looks for his first more times then not. Granted his penetration and what not creates plays for other. But when he's not getting off he seems to force it. Instead of trying to get the other guys into it. Basically AB is an asset to this team (and any other team in the league), but he's definitely a shoot first point which is cool. But he's needs to work on play making and not just scoring. But really AB can give you 20-5 and there ain't many guys in the league capable of that.
This. I was waiting for someone among the posters to point this out. Ever since Ish took control of the pg position, the whole team hummed like a well tuned machine as evidenced by the second half vs. the Spurs, and especially tonight. Yes, it was against the Twolves, but in the NBA any team can beat any other team on any given night. The cohesion and chemistry of the team, both on offense and defense is no coincidence. When a pg involves everyone in the offense the whole team plays better and inspired defense. Add to this is the fact that Ish is a really terrific defender, as pointed out by Adelman in his post game interview. The team tonight played with a sense of certainty and purpose and this was mainly brought about by the way the offense was run and organized by the pg. Good game by Ish and I hope he gets the majority of the minutes at pg from here on in.
zero star thread. utter rubbish. absolutely rubbish!!! aaron brooks is a dream for adelman's offense.!!!!!!
This thread has valid points. Our Rick Adelman coached offense has looked pretty good with Ish running it. Not to say that Ish is better than Brooks but that style of play is better suited for a team with Martin. Scola, and Yao. Everybody on the court can't be looking for their own shot. We need somebody that can facilitate. I don't think that Ish is the answer but I'm pretty sure that Brooks isn't either.
man threads like these is why i don't even come into the rockets part of the forum anymore. it's like *******, put these knee-jerk reactions into the game thread and don't clutter the whole board. jeez. one freakin' game against one of the worst teams... IT'S ONE GAME.
BROOKS IS THE ANSWER. and ISH is NOT the answer AT ALL. I say that because, look at Adelman's King's teams. We don't need players that fit POSITONAL STEREOTYPEs. We need players that fit ADELMAN. Its sad because, the kind of system I really love of is not Adelmans. The system of my dreams is the Boston Celtics system. I love Doc Rivers and what hes doing with his team. But thats irrelevant...we got Adelman, and hes great. So lets stick to Adelman and make the most of what we can. You see, Rajon Rondo is gonna look really bad under Adelman. But Brooks is nearly an all-star under Adelman. I checked Brooks stats with Bibby. Brooks stats last year was EXACTLY like Bibby back in Bibby's glory days with the Kings. Adelman wants a shoot-first PG. And Brooks is ideal for that. He can't assist, can't defend, can't rebound. But Brooks fits Adelman so much better than anyone else we can get our hands on.
too bad I can rate your thread but you can't rate my post look, ish is back to the bench in his suit once brooks and lowry comes back. go figure why...n00b
I agree but Ish shoots way too much a la rafer. He should not be in the top 3 in shot attempts on our team. That was a big problem with Rafer. For all the AB lovers, the shelf life for 5'10" PG's in this league is not very long. Think of all the 5'10" pg's and see how long they lasted. I love AB but he would be better suited for the 6th man role on a contending team.
How old he? Last time i remembered AB is still on his rookie contract. who cares how long they last..
Ishmeal mainly makes Lowry more expendable in my opinion. But the truth is, just because the kid doesn't suck, has managed to get Battier ACTIVE in the game doesn't mean he is something special. I have hopes for the kid, but lets not crown him as the next Jason Kidd or Steve Nash based off a few good quarters of basketball.
Like I said in another thread, I absolutely hate this logic. In all sports, there are many players that go undrafted and become great role players (starters on championship teams, etc.) or even stars.
Once he loses his speed and athleticism it's over.......see AI. He is definitely talented but I'm with the pro lowry team. We need a pure PG in the starting lineup. I agree with the Bibby comparison but he is bigger and his basketball IQ is a little higher. Better resume also. Short PG's destiny is what it is. Do you wish to play out this story again or find a better solution. Remember John Lucas or Moochie (I forget the guy before Lucas. Barret I think)? Remember Damon Stoudamire? Remember Terrel Brandon? Just a few that popped up in my head.
Finally a post I agree with. Ish looked good out there, and it's pretty exciting to see the team respond well to him. I think as the excitement wears off, though, people are going to start noticing his shortcomings. I love Brooks, but he needs someone to push him for his starting role. If Ish can win it from him, it makes the team better, but only if he actually wins it. You don't just crown him your floor general after a good game, no matter how good he looked.
