MR. MEOWGI: studogg, first reply on page 1. WTF does the magazine have to do with this? So did Dr. Martin Luther King REALLY get his doctorate, or are you mo 'fo's just bEwLch*ttIng?? "You lyin'... you ain't never met Martin Luther 'da King..."
Not really. When addressing the person, Dr. ___ is appropriate. The title outside their door and on business cards would be -----, PhD. Physicians are the same way, only with ------, MD. A doctorate is a doctorate. I say this as a son of a physician and someone who's worked and works with dozens of MDs and PhDs. The only place where I agree there's a difference is when someone asks for a doctor, or when a PhD is responding to a query about their profession. An MD could respond as a doctor, a PhD should respond with their field (physicist, psychologist, etc). Evan
no. i'm not a doctor. lawyers added that degree title because of some intense inferiority complex in relation to doctors. doctors practice medicine. that's how the word is commonly used in this country.
Except when a bachelor's is equivalent to a doctorate. In doing some quick research, I've found that in most countries outside of the U.S. the first professional degree in say medicine and law are bachelor degrees not "doctorates". But they are considered equivalent nevertheless. IOW a person from the UK or Australia holding a Bachelor's of Medicine is holding a degree equal to the MD.
No, I am sticking to my point. In the technical realm, "Dr." is not really appropriate. It is most definitely used and is now acceptable but that is because it has been mixed up over the years. I am saying this as the son of a PhD and as one who was on his way to one (and still might get there if life stops getting in the way). In college, the correct term should be "Professor _" (assuming they are a professor). Professor would be considered higher than "Dr." in academia because it recognizes a higher achievement. People probably just don't want to use titles below that (instructor, lecturer, etc) and so ended up resorting to "Dr." as a catch-all. Being the sone of an academic and growing up on a college campus I never called my professors "Dr. _" Additionally, I personally feel that in social settings "Dr." should not be used for anyone. It is not needed and is only an ego stroke for the person. Of course I think hanging degrees on a wall is silly as well...so I am extreme.
I don't think PhD's qualify for the use of the title Dr. It might be different in the US? I don't think it's really acceptable in australia. Only people who try to use the title with only a PhD are Usana-informercial type con artists. There are proper non-medical doctorates like for e.g Doctor of Letters but the people who make use of the title are usually conceited (from a 2 out of 2 sample size ).
I generally call them Professor instead of doctor, which (in my mind) is a step up anyway. I had a teacher in high school who insisted on being called doctor because he had a PhD. But, most of our teachers did and none of the others insisted on the title. We complied, but we called him Doctor Dick behind his back. Edit: Rimbaud is right. Who insists on a title in a social setting? The doctors I know are Jon and Jen and whatever, not Dr/Mr/Mrs anything.
A buddy of mine actually ended up breaking off an engagement to a girl whose father demanded the same thing despite the fact he'd been retired for a decade...and had been a VETERINARIAN!
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To be honest, when I hear "Dr," I dont think of a physician. Maybe because i'm in college and some of my teachers are Dr. so and so, but yea I can see your point. I dont think being called Dr. so and so means you are sleazy for trying to gain respect from peers. If you get a doctorates degree, you should be respected, it means you went well beyond and spent more years in school for it. I think its there right to have people call them that, though really if you think calling them dr is snobby, why not mr/mrs so and so. Doubt most would have a problem with that. Now if you have a teacher who was to say to a student, "call me Dr. so and so, not mr/mrs. so and so" than i would consider that snobby.
sounds like my dad. pompous is not the right would to describe Drs who insist only they can be called Drs. The right is "ass." or maybe pompass.
As already stated, this has been covered. How about a foot 'doctor' though? Elaine: Jerry, the man is a doctor. Jerry: Doctor? He’s a podiatrist. Elaine: It’s the same thing. Jerry: Anyone can get into podiatry school. *George* got into podiatry school. Elaine: Really? As for calling people by their 'titles', it's ridiculous to call people 'doctor' if you're not in said doctor's office. I don't make anyone call me 'Awesome professorjay', unless they're at my house of course. As for professors, all of my professors preferred to be called by their first name. I did say to one of my friends who received his PhD that he should go by the name of Doctor Doom though.
In Holland (and i think in more places in Europe) you have the Bachelor Master system. You are a Bachelor after 3 years of universety. And you become master after that. When you become master you have finished your study at the Universety. So Master is comparible to Ir. But Ir. is for the old school people. (which i am). So in 6 months, when i graduate from my Universety. i will become a Ir. but i can also call myself master of science. I can do a Phd after i became Ir. or Master.
I disagree. A person who gets a PhD, in my opinion, doesn't deserve to be called "doctor". So you spent way too much time and money on college. Big deal. Are you committed to helping people? No. You're just thoroughly educated. You don't deserve any more respect than any other degree'ed person.
Had a band director in high school and she referred to herself as Dr. Hammond. I thought it was lame to do to make yourself sounds better.......................glad I'm not the only one who notices this.
