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The US is at fault for the iranian air tragedy.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by blazer_ben, Dec 7, 2005.

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Iran can waste money developing nuclear weapons, but can't even take care of its own citizens...

    What a shame.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    That is just nuts.
     
  3. blazer_ben

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    How is that nuts? Nucelear energy is used by many countries, are they all nuts to?
     
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    You can start by telling your mullahs to stop trying to impose their will on the Jews and Iraqis.
     
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    When you have a hostile neighbour like Isreal, which has it's nucelear warheads pointed at you're cities, what are you suppose to do for a detterent?
     
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    lol... thanks for the laugh, this is a classic! It is so idiotic it isn't even worth the effort of discussing.
     
  7. blazer_ben

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    Again, i am against the current theocracy in iran. i guess you have selective memory thing going on here. as for the jews? it's there appaling treatment of innocent palestinians which is fueling the cycle of voilence. you have extremist from both sides using the Allready hot situation to breaking point.
     
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    wow, this is classic stuff! lol Clutch can pull so many quotes from this thread
     
  9. hotballa

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    cmon blaze, lets go back to the GARM where we're nicer to each other :D
     
  10. blazer_ben

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    Yes, a peacefull change in iran is more then possible.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    You said the mullahs are bad. They oppress the average Iranian. Yet you are ok with them having nuclear bombs?
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    Again what is your solution?
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Sure it's possible. It's also possible that we will trade Stromile Swift for Tim Duncan. The US would fully support such a revolution, but at this point it seems remote. And giving the mullahs nuclear bombs would make the possiblity even more remote.
     
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    Let me say, i have nothing against jews, or there beliefs. infact i have accepted the state of isreal, but lets be fair here.. the iranian people are human beings to.iran with isreal deserve to live side by side in a peacefull society. the only solution is a disarmment of of all countries in the region. nuclear weapons should be abolished all together.
     
  15. hotballa

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    Originally Posted by blazer_ben
    I am an iranian born man, and i believe it is the right of every nation to have and use nucelear energy for science, medecine and bombs if they deem fit. no other country has the right to impose there will on another member nation. it's not a jungel after all.

    Make up your mind
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Here's the problem. It's in your very first post.

    "these stupid sanctions are not hurting the dictators who ruler iran with an iron fist"

    These dictators would not abide by any disarmament.
     
  17. blazer_ben

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    Iran is years away from even coming close to developing a bomb. you think the russians would allow them to even develope one. what i said about them having one, was nothing more then a rant in the heat of the moment.sometimes you get carried away with the emotion of it all. offcoure i dont want the mullahs to have a nuke. that would unfortunatly gurantee there filthy survival and the death of true democracy in iran. :(
     
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    It's upto Isreal to abolish there arsenal and then a domino effect will follow in the region. the india and pakistan fued is a different story. hopefully those two countries will come to an understanding and disarm to.
     
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    I agree with one area of what Blazerben says: Economic sanctions are wrong and deprive a country of the right to sell to its neighbors. As we in the US harbor over non-competitive businesses and the anti-trust policies, yet we allow these in the global arena.

    I say open the gates to US globalism. I would prefer to have Iran's oil out on the open market to bring prices down. I would LOVE to have them become a stronger economy because as we well know any prosporous economy loves American goodies, products and services. Open the doors to Cuba and any other country. I honestly feel democracy and capitalism will spread more through consumerism than through government sanctions. When people see the benefits of capitalism and a global economy they will push for more capitalism and it will be a natural process.

    The US has made a great deal of mistakes in the past. I don't think they should be supporting the governments and backing the governments of Egypt, Saudi or Israel. Instead they should take a "we love everyone" approach while they utilize our goods and services. The reason we're the most powerful country is only because of our incredible economy that allowed us to bankrupt the Russians and we can outspend anyone. I think economic embargo's are a cold, heartless way to slowly bleed a country to death like Iraq, instead of actually dealing with the problem like we are doing now.

    Really Nuclear weapons in everyones hands seems to limit conflicts more than anything. Nuclear scares is probably why the US/Russia never went to war and is probably a reason why India/Pakistan haven't had many skirmishes lately. But when you have Israel errrrr American nukes which has stated that they would fire nuclear weapons on anyone that threatened their state, and no one else allowed to build them then it creates an imbalance and we're getting blamed.

    Open the floodgates to globalization and get the hell out of the way is my approach. Be friends with everyone and let them fight it out if they want to and then they can refresh themselves with a nice, ice cold Coca-Cola!
     
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    Thank you for you UN-BIASED point of view.
     

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