The UN The IAEA cmon give us your solution. cant punish them economically, can't do any invading to remove the regime. whats your solution??
If the US is after a regime change in iran, then there are alot of more worthwhile ways to go about it. first, start helping the Democratic student groups in iran who oppose the current system. Iran, unlike iraq has a highly educated population who only need the support of the outside world to overthrow the current establishment. by farther isolating the iranian people, you're not hurting the mullahs, only innocent human beings who are not associated with the goverment whatsoever. the United States goverment could have easily overrthrown the current establishment if it wanted to.
I seriously doubt that it is as simple as you say. It would be great if you were right. But as we see in Iraq, nation building after overthrowing a regime is not so easy.
It wrorked in yougoslavia.the clinton aministration and with a handfull of europian goverment starting helpind the dissendents there and the dictatorship of millossavic fell. noone saying it will happen overrnight, but it will happen.
I gotta agree with this. Iran's a very unusual case in that its not a totalitarian dictatorship. The mullahs control most of the power but as Khatami showed there is still some say by the public. From what I understand in the last election turnout was low as most Iranians were discouraged that Khatami wasn't able to do more and have given up on the idea of democracy. The other problem is with the US invasion of Iraq many Iranians are very worried and when it doubt you rally around the leadership. It seems to me that the Iranian society has dropped the ball in keeping pressure up on the mullah regime to reform.
It also took countless days of air bombing and a lot of civilian casualties. You seem to be endorsing regime change in Iran similar to what happened in Iraq. Did you support Iraq regime change?
ok then we should just leave Iran and North Korea to do its thing. We'll worry about them when they have missiles that can reach us Wait I know, how about if we send them food and ask to be their friends? maybe that'll work!
The difference is, the iranian people are fedup with the current system.thousendes of students braved death and excecution in the summer of 1999 and 2003 for reedome. but the outside turned a blind eye and the goverment cracked down on them like animals.
exactly. that kind of thinking is exactly the reason why liberals have been losing elections. They want everything to be all roses and no bloodshed, when everyone who lives in the real world, knows that 95% of the time, there's always some of it involved in these kinda of affairs.
Give me a break. you sound like bush. iraq has WMD, oh now we think they might have them now. ok we were wrong. there was no WMD at all. Start wars and kill thousends of innocent people, in the name of Pre-emption. .. shamefull indeed.
This is why I believe the invasion of Iraq is more of a classically Liberal idea, using force to enact social change in other countries, than classically conservative and why its an example of some of the big problems with classically liberal thought. Too much concern for ends with consideration of consequences. Its the belief that if you do something with a good motivation that everything will turn out well.
Beautifully put. iranians are proud people,( i am one to) they will fight to the death if the us decided to cross borders into iraq. the iraq invasion, only helped the mullahs to use the national dutie theme to rally the masses.
Do you serisouly want me to start pulling up articles detailing the IAEA warnings about Iran and North Korea?
Nods, very well put. The people responsible for the war are neocons or as I like to call them "wolves in sheep's clothing". The problem with the Iraq quagmire is that we still dont know why we went there or are there. Every Republican should be against nation building. If Bush came out and said we're there so we can get more oil, that would be far more acceptable than the running like a chicken without a head policy.
And if Isreal can walk around the block threatning anyone with anything why shouldnt others like iran should'nt have a deterent?. get off you're high horse. there are other countries in the world besides the us.The double standard by isreal is appaling. we can have our nukes, but the rest of the neighboures better bear it and grin.
Israel doesn't go around talking about how they should wipe all the Arabs off the face of the earth. The other nations arent run by mullahs who talk of killing every infidel.
I am an iranian born man, and i believe it is the right of every nation to have and use nucelear energy for science, medecine and bombs if they deem fit. no other country has the right to impose there will on another member nation. it's not a jungel after all.
