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The Unbelievable Patrick Beverley

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coachbadlee, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. ERC

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    Too late how? Care to enlighten us? :confused:

    Beverley played against OKC's 2nd unit for stretches, without being double-teamed, AND with Lin on the bench. If he's as good as you think he is, surely he could at least close the gap some? Did he?

    BTW, a guy who knee-jerked after one game is complaining about LOF going crazy? Gotta love the irony... :eek:
     
  2. Morlock O

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    he consistently draws a charging call almost every game....

    he is also consistently inconsistent... lol

    I don't think anyone reasonable enough expects him to be consistent on his first full season as a starter, coming off an injury... and on his first playoff experience... Lets see next season how he does...
     
  3. nolimitnp

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    He's so smart. If he got Jeremy Lin type minutes, he'd lead the league in steals. It's great how he picks the ball off the dribble rather than clogging the passing lanes. If Lin could start and somehow play the 2 behind Harden also, Beverly, Lin, and Parson's could be the supreme "need a stop" line-up.
     
  4. coachbadlee

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    Honestly, no. Right place, right time. But you keep forgetting that in that situation, he had the freedom to play his style of play, but when Melo came back Linsanity took a backseast a faded. The same has been happening off and on this season.
    He should be our sixth man and try to match Martin.
     
  5. munco

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    Beverley has definitely been consistent and you know what you'll get from him, but him playing consistently is not going to win us this series. OKC is a much better team than us and for us to win we need to increase the variance as Morey said.

    Beverley would be the perfect player on a team that's favored to win like the Heat, but no way are we going to beat OKC unless we have guys other than Harden put on monster performances. As inconsistent as Lin is he's a guy that can put up 30. In fact he did put up 30 and we beat OKC in our last regular season meeting.

    For us to win 4 games against OKC it's going to take some amazing performances outside of Harden and the guys to do that are Parsons and Lin. I love Beverley and yeah he's consistent but at this point I don't see him putting on a monster performances to lead us to wins in this series.
     
  6. AggNRox

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    youre idiot. you're a beverley only hater. beverley is our best defender. plain and simple. this is his first playoff game. he guarded rw, an all star. he still played good defense on rw although giving up easy buckets by rw.
     
  7. coachbadlee

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    You didn't watch the game. After Sampson woke McHale up, Beverley was in Westbrooks face by mid first quarter. Stop trying to make excuses. He went up against Westbrook more than he did Reggie Jackson and he did the amount of damage needed. Just a few stops here, a few steals there. Pay more attention to the game and not Jeremy's mouth guard or whatever part of Jeremy's anatomy that floats your boat.
     
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    ^^^this and its not even close. well, it is with omer.

    beverly constantly wrecks havoc on D, and you'd h ave to be blind not to appreciate this. yes, he gets occasional ticky tack fouls but he's always breathing down the opposing PG's neck, and sorry if thats something i want from my PG.

    btw, he ripped westbrook a couple times last night.
     
  9. ERC

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    Oh I did watch the game, though I definitely didn't pay any attention to Lin's mouth guard. Not sure if it floats your boat, but it definitely doesn't float mine.

    Beverley played great in game 1. No argument there whatsoever. But until he can do it night in, night out, and against a double-team, and against starters at all time, he is still unproven. Don't get me wrong, I like the scrappy kid. A LOT! But you need to check your bias against Lin at the door if you truly want to root for the Rockets. Lin has earned his minutes just as much as Beverley has. Until he's consistently bad, he deserves a chance to play.
     
  10. Geronimo

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    He had the freedom to play his style and his team was winning, what's there to complain about? People say it was because he wasn't on anyone's scouting report, but do you honestly think he wasn't on anyone's scouting report after he dropped 38 on National t.v. against the Lakers and was the breaking story on every sports show lol? Everyone wanted a piece of him after that game and that was only the 4th game into Linsanity.

    As for your proposal, I wouldn't be against it if we had another star, but so far Bev has shown to be a great energy guy (defense, rebounding) and is a decent spot up shooter, but he has not shown the ability to put up points nor the ability to effectively run an offense. With Bev starting, it's gonna be even more strain on Harden. So their roles are good right now, Lin's the starter and the hot hand finishes the game. Either way, Bev's gonna get plenty of minutes.

    Anyway, I'm gonna let you and the other kids have at it, time to watch some Game of Thrones and go to sleep.
     
  11. coachbadlee

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    For us to even have a chance they are going to have to attack Westbrook from the start. Smother him with defense from the very start. Last night there were more than a few plays where Bevs defense forced him to either pass or look clumsy. Beverley did a good job on him. He's still going to score, but he is going to take a load of shots.
     
  12. ed_tx

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    Wow- there are definitely some LOH/BOF's here. Watch the game again and tell me how many times Beverly got beat by his man or wasn't even guarding his man- and then tell me how great he is.

    I think Beverly made 2 great steals last night and hit a nice 3 and definitely outplayed Lin- but he screwed up plenty of times. I know b/c my buddy is a BOF and every time Bev got beat or messed up I would make note of it and my buddy would bury his face in shame (and he did it a lot). A number of times OKC would score easily and we would be like- who's man was that- and it would turn out to be Beverly.

    So give him all the accolades you want but he isn't even close to being the elite defender some of you make him out to be. He's quick and he can get some steals for you but that's it. On offense, he's a huge liability and on defense he is either lost or gambling for a steal too much and we get killed.
     
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    All of this is irrelevant because Lin got beat everytime. Lin found every single pick thrown at him last night. You can do better than this.
    Two games now we have seen Beverley's defense give Westbrook problems. I don't see your point.
     
  14. munco

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    For us to have a chance we need an X factor to come up huge. Bev is solid and consistent but again we need superstar performances to beat OKC because they are better than us. Lin had a monster game vs OKC in our last regular season game vs them and we won. Not sure why you think Bev will be the X factor. He's solid but unless he has a monster performance we're not winning. As streaky as Lin is he can takeover a game and Bev hasn't shown he can at this point.
     
  15. ed_tx

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    Lin was on Westbrook for most of the first quarter- and Westbrook went 2-8 from the field. If anything, Lin's defense was giving Westbrook problems. Beverly was picked off plenty of times and in the second and third quarters, Westbrook went 4-6. Doesn't seem like Beverley bothered him that much to me.
     
  16. Tommyboys

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    so true
    althou he outplayed j lin who played like a scrub, bev still isnt as great as some of you think
     
  17. kastuul

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    He is not on the scouting report.

    Derek Fisher already said that they will study about Bev for the next game.
     
  18. Raven

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    OK won 15 more games than the Rockets, so the ass whipping shouldn't really be that big a shock. The real purpose of these playoffs (other than for Les to make some extra money) is to see how each player performs under pressure, playoff pressure. In this way, the series should be thought of as an opportunity for each player to prove why they should start next year.
     
  19. raskol

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    Bev is easy to root for. Plays his heart out, plays scrappy, gives it his all.
    I guess Lin is not easy to root for, lol.

    Those of you who saw Bev playing good defense last night against Westbrook... Don't know what to say.
     
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    When the two guard isnt oversized Lin/Bev/Parsons could do well. It was intriguing to see douglas and Lin play quite well together during their time on their court together as well
     

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