yeah lets start Beverly already... he is such a good player... perfect fit for harden...then trade lin for a bag of chip...
LOL what a joke, they only played 3 games last week and he was fine in 2 of the three. I can only imagine the vitriol if Lin went scoreless for 50+ straight minutes.
Wake me when Beverley has a 17/8 game Not to mention 38/7, 21/9 in 25 min, or any game that takes him out of career back-up status.
It's interesting that all the people who bash Beverley are the same ones who passionately defend Lin at every turn.
Actually quite like Beverley. It's the people who bash Lin that tries to prop up Beverley. Coachbadlee eg has been saying Scott Machado is better than Lin, but even the Vipers traded away Machado for a Chinese Basketball Association American center who may be 6'9 or 7'0 depending on the report. DNP -RGV. Tell me, what in Beverley's resume has he done that's comparable to Lin last season, or even this season?
Start playing Aaron Brooks instead playing PB for so many minutes. AB is a proven NBA player whereas PB is active but not productive.
So because people bash Lin to prop up Beverley, you bash Beverley to prop up Lin. The only thing on Lin's resume as far as I'm concerned is that he MIGHT be an average starting point guard in the NBA. I don't know if Beverley is capable of that or not, but I do know he's done a great job in the role he has been given.
Saying that Beverley is a back-up player and that Lin is better than him is not bashing Beverley but just stating the facts. The only people who ever get their pants twisted into knot over it are those that are trying to bash Lin by popping up Beverley.
That almost certainly isn't true, anytime I see Beverley have a good game I see "Lin fans" doing whatever they can to diminish it. Or "Lin fans" making a huge deal about Beverley not scoring despite the fact that's not really whats expected of him when he's on the court.
While I believe Lin is better, that is opinion not fact. It is a lot closet than you think. The guy who finishes a game is generally the one who played better in the game. Beverley finishes a lot of games... I will say Beverley as a backup had been great. Lin as a starter had been disappointing. I know he still is recovering from the knee injury so don't want to be too critical.
I actually quite like Beverley, and made it known in numerous posts (you can search my username vs Beverley). Even in the post you replied to (d'oh) ... I just said Beverley hasn't done anything warranting a starting PG role, which I believe is fair. Do you want a starting PG that went 51min without scoring a point? Do you want a PG that hasn't run the offense particularly well, more to the point, hasn't really created many shots at rim for his teammates? Do you want a PG that opposing defense continues to overlook, and doesn't double-team or strategy-plan for (re-watch the Phoenix game ... he's wide open all the time, ignored by the defense and his teammates at the same time)? Yes, he has great energy, and he plays a different style of defense that complements Harden's little-defense better, but is Beverley a better PG than Lin? He definitely can be used ahead of Lin in certain situations, and if you go to the Orlando game thread, I actually wrote something like "if anybody questions why Beverley is playing the 4th instead of Lin, they're not watching this particular game, Beverley has been excellent on both ends of the court" ... But Beverley hasn't done many of these games at all, and is even more inconsistent than Lin. And he's a month older than Lin. So we go back to the state of the GARM. Anything that can be used to put down either Lin or LOFs, it will be used. Even if it's a PG that is likely to be a good career back-up, like Beverley, or someone like Machado who was trumped by Coachbadlee as the PG saviour of the Rockets (and Coachbadlee is at it again here), whereas my comment on Machado is a more reserved "he has a great skill in creating assists, but the other facets of his game needs much work, we should keep him in DLeague and try to develop him to see if the other areas of his game will improve". The fact is, many of the posters here write that Beverley should start in place of Lin, and even write posts like Lin has never been as good as Beverley nor will ever be ... yet they're projecting someone with season averages of 5pt/3ass (in limited minutes of course), has hit double figure scoring in all of 4 games, not once back-to-back, 6-7 games in between for two of his 10+ point games, and out of his 4 games with more than 10 points he had more than 3 assists in just one game (meaning he hasn't put a complete game together other than the game against Orlando, and that was a 13/6 game). To say this has exceeded what Lin has done in the last two years ... is a bit of stretch, in my humble opinion. And this has nothing to do with trying to put Beverley down. It is just what it is. What the numbers say. What reality is.
My initial post wasn't really referring to you. However as for the numbers, to put down a guy averaging 15 minutes a game for not scoring over 10 points is pretty ridiculous. That means with starter minutes you'd be expecting him to score 20+ a game. PER 36 him and Lin are very close in terms of numbers.
I can agree with Beverley as a backup being pretty good. Lin as a starter has been inconsistent. But the guy who finishes the game is not always the guy who played better. See Darren Collison in the Mavs-Rockets game, and Goran Dragic in the Pho-Hou game. Dragic was horrible in the first 3 quarters, and Marshall easily better than him.
