The Udoka knows Sengun lack of defense is a major problem

deserves its own bump

 

One of the biggest hurdles for Sengun to become adequate is, that he fouls a lot when he is trying not to foul. Just raising his arms, he often leans in or does something stupid like that.

I‘d hope that experience helps him with that and I also hope, that he can improve with coaching. Once he is good at contesting shots without fouling he will be fine. Not great but also not a liability.

 

Im sure Udoka will have all the patience in the world for Senguns PNR defense.

 

His starting spot should never have been in question. But I think we are not done. Stone still looking for that "rim protector".

 

Wasn’ that Jock Lonedale, Joke Lorndale.....Joker Landale.....

 

Just to be clear, out of the top 50 in frequency Alp was better in PPP than Evan Mobley, Jarrett Allen, Kevon Looney, Bobby Portis, Sabonis, JJJ and Al Horford.
Almost identical to Brook Lopez and Jakob Poeltl-two great defensive centers.

The stats say Alp was middle of the pack to above average in most defensive scenarios specially for centers. Yes, he absolutely has to be better. But he’s not as bad as people like to say

 

And about the same as Claxton in PPP on guarding the roll man.

Alp is way better post up defense than Claxton.

 

Really the team in general was decent in isolation defense. Tari/Green/Alp were all about the same in PPP

 

I do not get Sengun defense confused with Lopez or Mobley defense - do the stats mean Sengun should have received DPOY votes? If anything the signings made so far scream that they will try to hide Sengun on defense as much as possible which should be expected in order to capitalize on his offensive skill set.

 

Anybody trying to spin sengun being good/not bad at defense are similar to the delusional fools who think kpj is a good enough pg.

Sengun is not good at defense. He's not the weakest link but he's one of the reason why our defense rating blows.

 

No the stats say people’s eyes are a little biased. There’s a big difference between worst defender in the league and average to above average.
Will he ever be a defensive anchor? Probably not, but I think he can be a solid defender and help defender. Specially if the perimeter defense is shored up, which was one of the worst in the league last year.
I’m not even against having a center that’s strictly a lob/shot blocker type to fill in some minutes.
Just saying, the bad defense rhetoric isn’t true.

 

Stats don’t lie.
No one is saying he was an elite defender, but he wasn’t a bad defender by any metric. Specially compared to the rest of the team

 

One of the big reason why folks want a big defensive men is bc they can compensate for their teammate. Sengun can't and is one of the reason why folks want him gone/bench. He's not a good enough defensive anchor that already sucks at defense which is fine, but trying to convince folks he's a good serviceable defensive center is just weird.

I think sengun offensive talent can compensate for his weakness at defense.

 

I’m just telling you what stats say with heavy frequency. It says you’re wrong.
The absolute worst defender on the team last year was Jabari-by a lot. Followed by KPJ.

The team has to improve, Alp has to improve if not just because he’s a big. But, stats are stats, very easy to look them up.

 

The Yang to your thought is that defensive metrics are far from infallible and can lead to false precision via metric fixation. Instead of using a job description to say Sengun was responsible for X play as the last line of defense it becomes “the guards hung him out to dry”. Teams will try to funnel the action into good defenders. We do not - we actually complain when that happens! Sengun tries though I give him that benefit it’s better than other guys just not giving a F about playing defense. None of these guys will have a choice with Udoka they will either give effort or be benched/traded for better or worse.

 

I think your first mistake is to compare sengun to his teammates in terms of defense ability. I already note that he isn't the weakest link of defense (which is tru), but he is also one of the reason why our defense rating is poor (also tru, he's the starting center).

Trying to tell me sengun is a good defensive center is like folks telling me kpj is a good pg and points to his assist/to ratio.

Sengun is a great player at his young age, but defense is not even close to being his strongest attributes

 

He for sure has to improve, I think structure will help the entire team.

But I’m literally basing off of playtype defense, frequency and PPP compared to the team and league.

 

I’m not going to go back and forth with you with these false comparisons.
NBA.com look up playtype, PPP and frequency. Unbiased numbers.
No one, and I mean no one is saying Alp is elite. He absolutely has to improve. All I’m saying is he has less to improve than some of his teammates. If Jabari doesn’t improve, he’s going to be tough to play. I believe he will under Ime

 

It's all about context.
Sengun is a good defensive center and kpj is a good pg.

U look at the sht offensive and defensive rating. Ya it's hard to take someone serious with comments like that.