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The Truth WILL Hurt

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ncagg42, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. buptjinhe

    buptjinhe Member

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    At least he is a Rox fan who cares.
     
  2. Yao#1

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    Lebron is a career 32 percent 3 point shooter. You say he struggles at it, yet Tmac is a career 34 percent 3 point shooter and somehow that was a strength he brought to the team? Of course no numbers matter to you right?

    Except you mention Tmac scored 30 points a game during the playoffs. But I thought you said the only number that matters is the scoreboard. If that is the case, why are you mentioning 30 points a game. And no, I dont think Tmac is the reason the Rox have not gotten past the first round since he got here. Im just showing you how hypocritical you are by saying Yao's 20 and 10 mean nothing, but Tmac's 30 ppg vs the Jazz does.

    My whole reason for bringing up the stats is because that is how you have to actually try to back up a point. For example if I just say Rafer Alston is a great shooter someone is going to say no he isnt because he only shoots 34 percent or whatever. You say Yao being foul prone is not a stereotype, yet you dont mention that three other Rockets foul more often then Yao does.

    The all star game is not basketball. For Yao to say there is too much running during it doesnt equate at all to an NBA game and especially the playoffs. Technically, the freaking Harlem Globetrotter games are still basketball. So your argument there is lost.

    Also you make garbage observations such as " the team would be better with a healty Mcgrady". You really think so? Thats like saying the Lakers will be better if Kobe doesnt suffer a season ending injury. You say " The rox might miss the playoffs or they might not" You really think so? Im gonna match that bold prediction with one of my own. I bet the Rox will either win more or less then 55 games, unless they win 55 exactly. I sure hope Im right.
     
  3. ncagg42

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    theories, or predictions fall under the category of ideas.

    "T MAC faked his injury- i hate you t mac burn in hell" is talking about a specific person
     
  4. Blake

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    No, All Star game style basketball produces wins.

    Signed,

    The Dream Team (post Jordan and pre 08) an the Phoenix Suns (pre Porter)
     
  5. DwangBoy

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    can say the same about you for being a human.
     
  6. lalala902102001

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    Well maybe after this year's playoffs loss we can start that long, painful process called rebuilding...


    and maybe you'll come back and post something about how we blew up the team prematurely.
     
  7. ads10112

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    I disagree with everything you said 1-7. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!
     
  8. UrlPerlMonroe

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    Lol, Billy madison much?
     
  9. ncagg42

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    Globetrotters is a show bud. NBA all star game, has the same set of rules, time etc. as a regular nba game.

    The lebron 3 pointer thing, i did off watching games. Sorry i didnt care to look up the stats...you did it for me, and actually... 34>32 if you wanna keep talking numbers haha.

    The 30 points a game but we didn't win all that matters is the scoreboard, valid argument. Lets look at a few other examples:

    Barry Sanders, arguably the greated NFL running back. Never did much in the playoffs. Why? He played for hte lions, horrible TEAM.

    Moses Malone, never won the title, why? not much of a supporting cast on his TEAM.

    Archie Manning, great NFL qb- didnt do squat with the saints in team success however, why? didn't have any support on his TEAM.


    Everyone is putting the blame on a TEAM game on one player. I am not saying he deserves a huge pass and is the greatest ever, I am saying look at what he had with him.
    Lets take the MVP of last year-

    Two years prior, he wanted it all to himself, get rid of Shaq, he wanted to prove he could win alone. He had a similar supporting cast that Tmac had last season and guess what he did?

    don't remember?

    Two one and dones two years in a row. The MVP of the NBA in his prime couldn't do it by himself.

    Why? Because Basketball is a TEAM sport.
     
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    Makes no sense. Try again.
     
  11. UrlPerlMonroe

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    "Why? Because Basketball is a TEAM sport"


    You should enter Mastermind topic of choice, " The bleedin obvious"
     
  12. ncagg42

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    The sports journalism world called harold minor "baby" jordan. Before last NFL season they said the Browns were headed to the playoffs. They say things all the time, because that is their job. How often they actually say things based on insight and reasoning is beyond me, but just because they say something doesn't mean its certain.
     
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    Yea and force some of you to read it and be tested over it. I wouldn't have to make obvious statements if some people didn't make ridiculous claims.
     
  14. ibm

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    too much sports radio, eh? :cool:
     
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    Then why do teams double and triple team Yao? Why does he create wide open shots for his teammates? Why can't any single defender in the NBA stop him?

    And you are talking about predictions, which I agree with you on...this is talking about analyzing a current player...totally different, wouldn't you agree?
     
  16. ibm

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    haven't you heard? that's all because of the money (or should i say "revenue"?) yao brings. :cool:
     
  17. ncagg42

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    Because, when it is a halfcourt game, they are required to. He is a solid scorer out of the post, and you can't just foul him because his exceptional free throw shooting. What about when we need him to pass, or play defense? He just cannot do it.

    Having Hakeem at center you didn't have to surrender much of anything.
    Having Shaq, you had to live with his poor free throw shooting.
    Having Yao, you have to live with slowing the game down for him, being suspect on defense, not being an aggressive athletic rebounder etc. --
    My Question is, is it worth it? Why I wrote all that, was to point out the fact that I think, that we are giving too much up with keeping him on the court. Unfortunately nothign will be done about it, because the biggest economy and nation in the world is obsessed with him.
     
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    I don't know if Raefer will be a sucess in Orlando. I have been wanting him out of the lineup for a long time now. I do however agree that Adleman is not a good fit for this team. I honestly believe JVG with the group we have now would be in great shape.
     
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    I cannot believe you said Rafer can make the big shot at the end of the game while Jameer Nelson cannot.

    Do you watch SC? Nelson was in the top 10 twice in one week before he hurt his shoulder for hitting game winners. Rafer consistently misses the big shot. Completely unbelievable that you think Rafer hits big shots and Nelson can't.

    Happy to see him go, now i dont have to watch that crooked shot and stupid floater anymore.
     
  20. ncagg42

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    Possibly JVG... I dont think he really ahd a fair chance because the players we gave him to work with were just below average nba players (aside from yao and tracy). JVG and Thibedeau (bostons assistant) did a great job on defense, our offense was just not very good. The question is, was that due to his coaching or more to the fact we didn't have the talent to put up points? I think a little of both. I am leaning more towards the lack of talent.
     

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