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The Truth- What McGrady brings in the Playoffs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DudeWah, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. JujuxG

    JujuxG Member

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    The real question is what has the past team he play on help him to advance, most of the its like one vs 5
     
  2. DaronMalakian

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    No, and they don't, that's the better thing. This team is -very well- oriented on Yao Ming; McGrady can be a great help, but he doesn't have the Bryant or Lebron's role.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I would be happy if Tmac can bring the same level of play THIS year as he did last year.

    I am hopeful, but honestly worried......

    DD
     
  4. DudeWah

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    Agreed, and when he doesn't have their role and is still capable of playing at a level "similar" (and I use that word loosely) to theirs, you have something very special..
     
  5. jerrios

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    The real question is what he has done to help his teammates so they can help him advance.
     
  6. DudeWah

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    That's not his job..
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    What has Kobe ever done for his teammates to help them step up so they can help him advance?

    See how ridiculous that sounds?
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    It is up to every single player on a team to step up their game for any hope to advance.

    That is what separates the good teams from the great teams.
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    McGrady has always stepped up. The stats prove it. Yao has stepped up somewhat, but not as much as he should have. Rafer stepped up last year. The problem is, they haven't stepped up consistently, and all at once..
     
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  8. rox4lyf

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    4 words or 5 if you're technical: This isn't last year.
     
  9. crash5179

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    My Take on TMac

    Its as simple as this:

    Up 3 games to 1 against Detroit and looses the next 3 games by a total of 61 points.

    Up 2 games to 0 against Dallas with 3 games left in Houston and lost that series, loosing game 7 by 40 pts.

    Up 2 games to 0 against Utah and loosing game 7 at home.

    - Winning a play off series is not about stats. Its about hitting the game winning shot in the last second of the game even if the you couldn't get a shot to fall in the first 47 minutes.

    - Winning a play off series is not about stats its about protecting your home court in a game seven of the play off series.

    - Winning a play off game is not about stats its about closing out a series and winning 1 more game when you are up 3 - 1 or winning 2 more when you are up 2 - 0.

    - Winning a play off series is not about stats its about understanding that no matter how good you play, if the other team plays better you loose.
     
  10. JujuxG

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    are you serious lol...
    hamza answer it very well
     
  11. JujuxG

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    first two, from what you telling me, his team got blow out? so tell me how one player can change that? Also from tmac didn't hit a game winner shot? look at the scores.
    And most of you point involve a team effort which the team didn't give him
     
  12. crash5179

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    Thats what I love. Excuses.

    At some point dont you think he should be able to put the team on his back? You call him a superstar but I say a superstar can win a series every once in a while even if he has to put the team on his shoulders.

    Maybe I just got spoiled watching true superstars like Dream and Moses.
     
  13. DudeWah

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    Great contradiction.
    When he looses its his fault, yet when the opposite side wins, it is the team that beats him.

    Where is our team?
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    This isn't McGrady vs. the Utah Jazz, or Dallas Mavericks


    McGrady wasn't the only one who lost, the Rockets did..
    As much as we as fans hate admitting it, those are the cold hard facts.
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    He is still beneficial, and the biggest contributing member to our Rockets having the chance to make a big playoff push.
     
  14. crash5179

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    He has not been the biggest contributor this year.
     
  15. DudeWah

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    Where was Yao?
    Shouldn't our 7'6 "true" superstar have been there to carry the team on our back?
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    Isn't that something that he as a superstar could have done after McGrady did so much else?
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    hmm..
    maybe I'm just spoiled watching true superstars like Dream and Moses..
     
  16. DudeWah

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    I agree, but you can clearly see he has made some strides from the Toronto game to the Philadelphia one.

    There's reason to believe that he can further improve with more games under his belt.
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    All I am saying is don't (wrongly) say that he cannot help us during the playoffs.
     
  17. crash5179

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    I did not think this was a Yao vs. TMac argument.

    Yao is not a superstar. Allow me to repeat it...Yao Ming is not a superstar.

    Yao is a role player that can elivate his game to an all star level at times. He can at times carry a team during the season but he can not carry a team on his shoulders through a play off series. Yao Ming is a very good role player most of the time.

    IMO, Tracy McGrady is not a superstar either. TMac IMO is fools gold as a superstar.

    Yao has no problem accepting his role as a team player. Can TMac accept a role as a team player with out needing the offense to go through him on every play? I don't think so.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    There is a difference between saying he can't help the team and saying that the team HAS to have him to advance.

    Clearly they can use his talents, but with Ron and without Tracy they probably have enough to advance.

    DD
     
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    you were worried last year too DD when you claimed he faked his knee injury and quit on the team. you don't have to worry about tracy as we get into the stretch run. he should be the least of your worries

    tracy has his drama EVERY year the past few years, but he always brings his game up to the level we expect as we go into the playoffs.
     
  20. crash5179

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    The level of my expectations is play off success.
     

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