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The truth: Ron, with a bad ankle, is more clutch than Yao and more heart than Mac.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kingk0ng, Dec 27, 2008.

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  1. BrooksBall

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    If this doesn't inspire McGrady, nothing will.

    Artest is playing with a swollen ankle. McGrady is at home cleaning his woman parts.

    McGrady had surgery 9 months ago (the same surgery that Kobe got before the 06-07 season where he only missed 5 games on the way to his 2nd consecutive scoring title).

    If we can trade McGrady for two decent players, we should do it. If we can trade Alston for a can of ****, do it.

    Then, resign Artest.
     
  2. Aznoob

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    Centers don't need to be clutch. Centers need to control the game and the inside paint.

    FINISHERS need to be clutch. James, Bryant, McGrady, Wade...

    Those guys all need to be clutch. A center is a second option in a tight game.
     
  3. el_locoteee

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    The truth: Ron, with a bad ankle, gets more calls than Yao .
     
  4. Icehouse

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    I won't say he is more clutch than Yao, only because he always won't be this efficient offensively. But he surely seems to have more heart than both of them put together.

    They both tend to shy away from contact. Ron seems to relish it....
     
  5. J.Will.Xu

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    You gotta be kidding me?!

    No Yao,no bucket,no win.Ron did pretty good in 2nd OT and brought us a win in the final seconds of the game.However,Yao's still our best player on the team.
     
  6. The Joker

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    Yao was exhausted. But he did still have some key blocks, even though his shot was falling. Yao still busted his butt out there.
     
  7. tinywang

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    Based only on tonight game in the 4th, you're right. But I was speaking overall this season. Thanks.
     
  8. Spacemoth

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    Yao Ming, clutch? What beergoggles have you been watching the game with.

    When teams like Utah close up the middle in crunch time, all I have EVER SEEN is T-Mac pulling up for awful decision jump shots and Yao Ming do that roll away from the defense fade-away baseline jumper. Utah consistently leads the league in fouls people. There's a reason for that. And there's a proper response to that too in the crunch. It's EXACTLY what Artest did. Take it to them, make them foul out of the game.

    It's a breath of fresh air on a team with Yao, T-Mac, Rafer, etc. chokers. I thought Brooks was going to be a good change-of-pace backup PG, but I have seen the light: the damage Rafer does to this team is far too great to give him any more time as the starter. I called every single one of his misses in the end of regulation and overtime(s). Because that's what chokers do. Period.

    Thank you again, Ron Artest and Daryl Morey for assembling guys (Landry, Brooks, Scola, Artest) that actually WELCOME the pressure, rather than shy away from it.
     
  9. el_locoteee

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    BTW Yao is the #2 center on the clutch barely behind Duncan this season.

    And his timely block shot and shot alters are the different too.

    http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM

    And he was better before the last to games.
     
  10. AntiSonic

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    We could have had Billups and Prince or Hamilton and Wallace. :(
     
  11. kingk0ng

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    I disagree.
    signed,

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  12. Spacemoth

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    Oh, and Yao Ming mentioned himself earlier in the year that one of the faults he was working to rectify in his game was his tendency to shy away from contact. Well, he still needs to work on it, esp at the end of games. I will give him credit for significantly improving his D though. GJ Yao.
     
  13. NYCRocketsFan

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    Ron is definitely more aggressive than Yao and Tmac combined. Ron draws fouls and attacks the basket. It was good to see the Rockets go to Ron in the 2nd overtime since going to Yao failed in the end of regulation and the 1st overtime.

    Don't get me a wrong, I'm a huge Yao and Tmac fan but I've realized that the going to Yao at the end and him missing shots is not going to work. It was reminiscent of the old days when JVG kept having it passed to Yao down low and have him work. The offense gets predictable and we need ball movement like when Scola made that layup in the 2nd OT. The ball moved and other players scored. Also, Tmac and Yao just don't draw fouls in the end of games.

    It seems like this game is the turning point in the season, hopefully that Ron Artest should be the leader of this team. He will be the reason that we will get out of the first round this year. He will be the man. Sure, there will be games when Yao or Tmac(when he finally gets healthy), that they will win some games for us in the regular season. But come playoff time and when we need a score at the end, I want the ball in Ron's hands. I want him attacking and drawing fouls.

    In Ron we trust. In Ron I trust.
     
  14. SuperStar

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    Yao being clutch is a myth. I dunno how they come up with that stat but I know it's wrong.
     
  15. el_locoteee

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    OMG :eek:
     
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    why do people have to bash mcgrady just because artest had a good game playing hurt. mcgrady had a triple-double playing hurt a couple weeks ago.

    artest is definitely a warrior but to pretend you know whose injury is more serious and who is experiencing more pain. is just a joke. t-mac carried us to the playoffs last year and was the best player during one of the best stretches in rockets and nba history in that 22 game winning streak. give him the benefit of the doubt and let him play some games when he's healthy.
     
  17. kingk0ng

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    Sad but true
     
  18. T-Yao

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    I wanna see you play a back-to-back double OT game and see if you run out of breath. And you are probably a fat man that doesnt even know how to play basketball.
     
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    QFT..
     

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