The quote shows no awareness whatsover of the warrants available from the FISA court. It describes wiretapping on citizens where the warrants are obtained prior to the wiretapping; this is clearly not the case with warrants issued by a FISA court-- those warrants can be issued after the fact as much as a year after the fact. Different rules for a different court. This quote cites the rules of a court other than FISA, does it not?
Just for the sake of argument, lets say you're right. Now If the president says that a court order is necessary wouldn't Joe America hear that and assume that he was talking about all wiretaps and not differentiate between the two? Then shame on me for assuming the president was being a straight shooter.
I loved working with Harry when he was Merlin at the Texas Renaissance Festival! Now that was the real deal!
What he said clearly does not describe the universe of court-ordered wiretaps-- for what reason I do not know. You obviously want to believe there was an intent to mislead; I can't stop you from believing what you want to believe. I'm more inclined to think of it as a revelation of his lack of wonkiness. I don't think President Bush is a details guy nor is he particularly good at expressing himself. Your side relishes that and wishes to hang him with his own words every time that opportunity is available. I prefer the big picture and just simply don't buy into the paranoia that he is out to destroy the constitution. They are just trying to protect us all. Have you never abridged a rule in your life?
I don't think GWB is "out to destroy the constitution". He is just doing whatever he wants to, consitution be damned. Did GWB protect us against 911? Did GWB protect us against Katrina? Did GWB protect us by making war with Iraq on weak pretenses? Did GWB protect us by leaking a covert CIA operative looking into Iranian WMD for his own political gain?
<b>No Worries I don't think GWB is "out to destroy the constitution". He is just doing whatever he wants to, consitution be damned.</B> So you are saying that he is reckless without purpose or intention? <b>Did GWB protect us against 911?</b> Wasn't that kind of the first volley-- Richard Clarke aside? <b> Did GWB protect us against Katrina?</b> No and he should be impeached for it... <B> Did GWB protect us by making war with Iraq on weak pretenses?</b> History will decide because time will tell. There are lots of good things happening over there. <B> Did GWB protect us by leaking a covert CIA operative looking into Iranian WMD for his own political gain?</b> Did he do it?
He did not "abridge a rule," he BROKE A LAW. Pretty big difference, especially since he is the man who is supposed to oversee the enforcement of all of the laws of the land.
Want to believe? giddy the man looked at the camera and said... There can be no doubt what he is saying and what he is implying! If we are spying, we are getting a courrt order. period! He cannot be more clear. Yet you continue to parrot the line that that's not what he meant. unreal What the hell is wonkiness? Is this really the qualities you want in your president? Not being a details guy is how we got into this Iraq mess in the first place. And yes! I'd like for my president to be articluate. I guess you don't Me "abridging" a law hasn't got 2500 Americans and untold Iraqis killed.
I do not doubt that GWB has purpose or intention. In the case of NSA spying, a FISA court would provide some, limited oversight and Constitutional protectiion. The fact that GWB used the FISA court for some spying and not for other spying. This gives me a serious pause. This is a President whose word simply can not be trusted.
