The Topic of Gun Control and How it Relates to Recent Mass Shootings

Too bad Columbine didn't have an armed guard.

 

And in the background, listening to 790, is an ad for Tactical Firearms where you can get your silencers and full automatics. For hobbys, I imagine...

 

I hear that all the time too and I always think
AREN'T SILENCERS ILLEGAL???!?!?!

Rocket River

 

You are kinda correct. The SAF is a better org.

 

What disturbs me is that there are no restrictions the more ardent gun owners/NRA members consider logical. Nothing that affects what they are allowed to buy. I'm not talking about your average gun owner, or serious collectors, but rather the extremists, who will deny they are extreme until Hell freezes over. What is eventually going to happen is that the extremists are going to screw over all gun owners simply by being so intransigent. At some point, public disgust over incidents like that in Newtown will cause a backlash leading to more control over guns than what we would have otherwise had if there had been some moderate, sensible controls.

It's stupid. Short sighted and stupid. You're going to **** things up for every gun owner, you fools.

 

Just WOW! After all this, the only thing the NRA can think of is: More Sales!

 

I like how he compares accidental deaths with some idiot taking a semi automatic rifle and blowing people away. That's kind of the same.

 

Fish is fun for some but not for me. Im surprise some here are associating shooting responsibily w a mental illnesses or a a symtom of some dysfunctionalty. As a society, we can come up with sensible gun laws that satisfy both groups. What happened in Newton could have been prevented without going overboard.

 

On reflection, I feel like the NRA is saying to me: we aim for a world where B-Bob loses the right to NOT own a gun.

And what they're saying, when they blame media, movies, and video games: the second amendment >> the first amendment.

 

I also find some antigun agruements here lacking. I.e. everyone i know that are gun enthusiast are parianoid ergo most are. Thats a fallacy itself

 

There are several ways it could have been avoid:
1. BAN ALL ASSAULT Rifles . . .if they are illegal his chances of having them were smaller
2. RAISE MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS - well, I don't know this could have helped because his mother seemed well aware of his mental condition.
3. Responsible gun ownership laws - Again, his mother was a responsible gun owner . . . until she wasn't [which means when she allowed him to learn to shoot and to have access to them ]
4. Increased security on Schools <-- this is the weakest because. . then he goes to a Hospital/day care/etc It is only moving the place of tragedy. Until everywhere is a policestate.

As someone pointed out . . . % wise . . . .most gun owners are decent dudes/dudettes
but . . the issue is one goes bad . .it can go REALLY bad.

Rocket River

 

http://news.yahoo.com/four-dead-thr...lvania-shooting-paper-180118893--finance.html

Some guy in Pennsylvania started shooting random people on the highway....

 

We can establish that most mass shootings are caused by
A.) hi capacity magazines
B.) mentally unstable individuals.

We can work with that.

California has somewhat addressed A by requiring all rifles to have auto locks (requiring keys to remove the magazine) or permanently attached magazines. 10 rounds are the limit for all guns including handguns. I won't even have problem with having auto locking magazines for handguns.

B is a little bit more difficult, but we can have questionnaires on gun registration forms where you have to declare any house hold members with mental disorders under perjury of law. Then require gun owners to have combination type/finger reader type safes.

 

Per you. Per the Constitution and the Supreme Court of the United States my hobby is perfectly acceptable. Thank God I don't live my life trying to please you.

Sorry you are butt hurt that the law currently sides with me, and it will for the foreseeable future. Congress can't even agree on a budget, an issue that Americans overwhelmingly support... if you think they'll accomplish something on a heated topic with huge lobbyists I have some magic beans to sell you.

 

Maybe you need a perscription from a mental health professional to get a gun
like trying to buy certain drugs

Rocket River

 

Svpernaut started out pretending to be genuinely concerned about solving the gun violence issue last Friday, each passing day he's gone slowly but surely over to the nutter end of the spectrum, showing that he really isn't interested in fixing anything, but maintaining the status quo while merely appearing to care. You know, pretty much just like the NRA and the rest of the gun lobby. The veil has come off, and it ain't pretty.

 

I have no problem limiting magazines to 6 or 7 rounds, regardless of caliber. There is no reason to have more.

I do think it should be a law that anyone who has a gun should legally have it locked up (exception is shotguns) if they do not have a permit. Permits should be much more rigorous.

I don't know how I feel about magazine locks. Perhaps one should be required to have a permit to have LEM guns with strict restrictions on non permit weapons.

 

If Svpernaut really bothers you, perhaps you should use this feature. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/profile.php?do=ignorelist

 

The horrible irony is that it happened at the same time the NRA was giving their inane presser.

 

Thanks. After 30K posts and 10 years I was totally unaware of such a feature.

Just because you don't agree with somebody (especially when it's just one particular issue) usually isn't a good reason to put them on ignore.

In fact, if I was going to use the ignore feature, it'd probably be more suited for you (somebody whose posts I find almost universally worthless, regardless of subject, which is reinforced by your post above) than for him.