The Topic of Gun Control and How it Relates to Recent Mass Shootings

Eevery indivual right guranteed in the consitution should be respected and not taken lightly. That is a core value of this country and an agreement the people of America have with the government. Amen.

However, once again, your second amendment right is not absoulte. Rights set forth in the consistution do come into conflicts with each other. While there is the right to bear arms, there are the right to one's life and liberty, the right to travel, the right to pursue happiness, on and on, that can come into conflict with your right to bear arms. The supreme court of the US is the final arbitrator of such conflicts, not you, not me, not in ways you have errorously described. Once the right to bear arms are balanced with other rights in the SCOTUS, your little argument that good folks need their arms to put out steams are going to be laughed at. That is not a part of calculation, not something contemplated by the Framers when ratifying the second amendment. I hope I have made it abundantly clear to you. If not, you really need to speak to a lawyer to get an understanding and I am not going to give you any more free advice from this point on.

 

Look at you. One proud member of NRA! You ought to put up a sign on your lawn.

 

Exactly... and who does the Supreme Court currently side with? Me. Until the day comes where that isn't the case you can kiss my ass because I'm going to hold on to my guns and enjoy them.

I didn't say people need their guns to let off steam, I'm telling you that is just one reason of thousands why people enjoy shooting. Your selective reading is laughable. Why do people have hobbies?

- hob·by /ˈhäbē/ (Noun) - An activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure.

 

Completely agree..yallmean is a joke, and I'm not completely sure he has taken a shower yet..lol

 

Hopefully he's also a member of the Second Amendment Foundation.

http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=safdonation

 

I wasn't before, but thanks for the link.

 

Why do you think I have not taken a shower yet? Why? Where is your little fun with me using the rs with ls? Keep it coming, so everyone can see it. Please.

 

The concept of Arming Teachers is ridiculous

What the f*** is it that we wanna dump all this responsibility on TEACHERS?
I am also not a proponent of having the schools look like fricking prisons

Rocket River

 

You do know the NRA has morphed into a lobbying arm for the gun manufacturers, right? In actions and deeds, that is who they support, even if their words suggest they still represent sportsmen.

 

hey... anything that keeps the gun nuts able to play with their guns. After all, what is more important, school safety, or NRA members being able to engage in their favorite hobby, shooting assault weapons.

 

You need new hobbies if that's what you're into but that's just my opinion...

 

That why he now also supports the Second Amendment Foundation.

Guns aren't the only reason kids die in this country. 212 were killed last year as passengers of DUI offenders. More than 3500 people drown every year, the majority of which are kids. The drug trade easily kills more kids each year than guns. Depression kills more kids than guns. Guns are an easy target and that is the only reason people are latching on to them. Society has problems, let's blame something rather than fixing the root of the problems.

 

How may times have 20 kids drowned or overdosed in their 2nd grade classroom?

 

That's what I agree with NRA. Half-ass stricter laws wont work.

However a complete ban on the guns will work because it will make bad guys a lot harder to get guns. They have to kill an armed soldier or cop to get it. That will make things a lot different.

The sad thing is, even with a complete ban on guns, the security guards for each school, hospital, movie theater, bank, government offices, flight, train, bus, ....are needed.

A failed society it is.

When $$$$$ is the goal and everything of that society, it is a failed society. Mass killinng will happen, anyway.

 

tru dat.......just get police

 

Exactly! More police!!!

 

As soon as you justify DUI deaths, drowning deaths, and drug-related deaths as "people blowing off steam" and "simply engaging in a favorite hobby" then I won't focus on that "easy target" of assault weapons.

But go ahead and tell the parents of those 20 dead children that, "hey, society has problems and we don't want to unfairly blame guns".

 

Good. Time for you to get a new hobby.

 

Even Michael Steele found the comments stupid.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/21/nra-comments-draw-swift-opposition-in-reactions/?hpt=hp_t2

Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele called the NRA's remarks "very haunting and very disturbing."

"I don't even know where to begin," Steele said on MSNBC after the NRA's statement. "As a supporter of the Second Amendment and a supporter of the NRA, even though I'm not a member of the NRA, I just found it very haunting and very disturbing that our country now that are talking about arming our teachers and our principals in classrooms. I do not believe that's where the American people want to go."

Outspoken gun-control advocate New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg called the statement "a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country."

"Instead of offering solutions to a problem they have helped create, they offered a paranoid, dystopian vision of a more dangerous and violent America where everyone is armed and no place is safe," he said. "Enough. As a country, we must rise above special interest politics."

Democratic Rep. Chris Murphy, whose congressional district includes Newtown, tweeted a sharp reaction from Connecticut after the group's comments: "Walking out of another funeral and was handed the NRA transcript. The most revolting, tone deaf statement I've ever seen."

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, a Democrat from New York, whose husband was one of six killed and her son seriously injured in the 1993 Long Island Rail Road shooting, said she was "saddened by what I saw today."

"The NRA's leadership had an opportunity to help unite the nation behind efforts to reduce gun violence and avert massacres like the one at Sandy Hook Elementary School but it instead showed a disconnect between it and the majority of the American people," she said in a statement.

In statements following LaPierre's comments, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a Democrat from New Jersey, called LaPierre's comments "reckless." And Sen. Barbara Boxer, a Democrat from California, said in assigning blame to others, LaPierre "showed himself to be completely out of touch by ignoring the proliferation of weapons of war on our streets."

Mark Kelly, a retired astronaut and husband to former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords who was seriously injured in a shooting in Tuscon last year, expressed disappointment in the NRA's remarks in a post to his Facebook page.

"The NRA could have chosen to be a voice for the vast majority of its own members who want common sense, reasonable safeguards on deadly firearms, but instead it chose to defend extreme pro-gun positions that aren't even popular among the law abiding gun owners it represents," Kelly said.

 

A lot of phallic things are fun to play with. Shooting guns is fun. Swinging a baseball bat is fun. Running a chainsaw is fun. Fishing is fun. Playing pool is fun. Hammering stuff is fun.

If you're getting your jollies by firing off a bunch of rounds from a gun specifically designed to kill people instead of deer or squirrels or birds, pick one of the above hobbies and go at it with similar gusto.