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The Tmac Theory

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. diegot143

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    The last thing i want is Tmac to lead this team again. I dont know why i was so illusioned at having the great tmac lead this team when we traded for him. I said oh look we have this incredible wing tallent that will make all star teams and show up on ESPN all the time this rocks. And yeah it was the case. But that all it was bc behind the scenes tmac turned out to be a lazy person who craved attention and new nothing about being a team player. Having tmac lead a team just brings down the level of all the other players bc the other players just stand around watching him and get out of touch with the team game. If Tmac comes back he should act like just a good talent but nothing more. He can put up points but he is not a leader, he should put up points and defer to battier and Scola who are probably the new leaders of the team. Unfortunately ESPN does not see it this way and will pump tmac up with all this ego and tmac will probably suck it all up bring up his ego and be a burden on the team. Unless his long lay off will have some how changed him with the difur thing and all. Lets hope that if he does come back he has changed his ways and not be a burden with his ego hauging.
     
  2. xiki

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    I cannot, and will not, argue with your premise or conclusions. I will just say 'that' is not exactly what this feels like. To me, anyway.

    This offseason has moguled with the possibility of the eternal loss of Yao-on-court to optimism for a strong restart of his Rocket career 11/1/10. The team's pieces are being built, or retained, for '10. Not the return of Tee-Mack.

    While there remains no clear 2, unless Ariza/Shane is at least as much a 2 as Josh Howard is in south Oklahoma, perhaps it is being held for McG?

    Unless and until a clear picture emerges about what the future holds for McG - or his contract - a summer trade? February deal? July '10 SnT? Or a holdem, he's our superstar and he will be back and emboldened (at least to earn a new paycheck) and better and badder than ever! When this is answered, and why has DM the GM not been pressed on this by any of the press, by golly, then we fans will have an insight into the short term goals of our chosen root-for franchise. And the long term prognosis.
     
  3. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    To all the people who want to talk about me, instead of the thread.....I PWN you.....PWNED .......I say !!!!

    ;)

    As for the topic, it is mere speculation, it is not a desire, I still feel the same way about Tmac as I always have, but am just speculating that this might be what the Rockets are up to.....in regards to him.

    Why would they do it, someone asked, because they heard the boos from the fans when his picture was shown in the team's highlights in the playoffs, and they are KEENLY aware that a less than stellar team will be a hard sell for tickets.

    What the Rockets do with Tmac is an entirely different thread....I have not changed one iota on what I think of him as a player/winner.

    However, as an asset, I think their stance changed the minute Yao went down....and so did mine.......now they need to hold off and rebuild him instead of jettison him in the offseason....because they are no longer contenders THIS year.....so they need to utilize their best chip by building him up.

    That is what I think Morey is up to.......but again, this is a complete guess.

    DD

    Cue the DD's PWNEDers talking about me instead of the topic again....bunch of Haterzzzz
     
  4. xiki

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    So, to argue the devil - TMc is good, very good. When healthy, and motivated (is a new contract not sufficient motivation?), the man is an elite NBA player. Not quite D-Wade elite but the supporting cast is superior here (even in the absence of YM) to what Riles has brought to the Biscayne.

    If I am right, and of course I am, then this team with TMc (not McGrady, but T-effing-Mc) should be home-court competitive in '09 - '10.

    But, I do not buy into the McG has a future at the Toy Shop. I suspect (ok, I guess) that McG will be traded in February, or an SnT (riskier) 7/10.
     
  5. ctry2582

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    Again, this theory sucks.

    If TMac IS to come back at the start of the season like you allude to DD, why WOULDN'T they make it known, as opposed to being mum about it?

    They could tote the whole, yeah, Yao is out, but TMac is rehabbing hard, and should be back in time for the season opener. Keep faith alive, we can still be a good team!

    ...thing is, for the millionth time, they're mum about TMac because they DONT KNOW if/when he'll exactly be back

    I just 'PWNED' your theory
     
  6. t_mac1

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    do u remember last yr when tracy kept going in and out of the lineup?

    even if tracy is ready, they have to know FOR SURE before they announce it. they don't want to have a tentative date and he won't come back. that'll look bad on him and the organization.

    although his rehab is going well, realistically, there is no set date. until then, the team is going to keep mum and will say "at the latest."
     
  7. DaDakota

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    You may be right CTRY...

    But, I think they KNOW exactly where Tmac is in his rehab etc, but are not sharing that info with the public to be cautious...

    It is July, not September, they don't need to worry about selling tickets today, but if my theory is correct, expect to see some PR stories about Tmac and Grover and his comeback start to build around September....

    DD
     
  8. ctry2582

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    Yeah they have to know for sure before they announce it.

    Which is totally different then, they're keeping their mouths shut, so, when he does come back surprisingly at the start of the season, it'll help his image with the fans. And in turn, help us sell tickets, since, we were quiet about it all along, and it would help the hype for him to return sooner than anybody expected. Yeah let's keep quiet about TMac because it's clearly the best bang for our buck, route to go.

    ..Does not compute
     
  9. xiki

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    His comeback PR - to sell him to Rox fanbase...or prospective trade partner's fanbase?
     
  10. ctry2582

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    And if you're wrong, and he doesn't come back at the start of the year, what's going to be your excuse?

    'He's a cancer, no heart, what was I thinking he'd be in the lineup opening night'

    .....'Yep I was right all along. TMac is a bum. We don't need him. Let's let this young team grow without him'
     
  11. Rocket River

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    I don't see it because
    I don't see TMAC taking a pay cut in 2010
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    I don't see the Rockets Resigning him for 20 mil

    Rocket River
     
  12. rhester

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    The only way TMac is playing at the start of the season is if he plays injured.

    He will not be back before Dec.- Jan. (hopefully)
     
  13. DaDakota

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    I could be wrong, this is just a fun theory about what the organization might be doing.

    I still don't like his game, but I am a Rockets fan so whatever is better for the franchise overall is what I am onboard with, even if it means adjusting your thinking.

    Why do you care anyway? We are talking about the Rockets on a Rocket's bulletin board....

    Maybe, but it is July and he is already on the court....2 more months and he might be ready for training camp...it would be 8 months past a minor surgery....

    We shall see.


    DD
     
  14. ctry2582

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    Also to PWN this theory, let's be real. The Rockets medical staff is a joke.

    See: TMac

    See: Yao

    You honestly think they know EXACTLY how far along TMac's rehab is going? Really? The same guys who thought TMac was gonna be all right, only to get microfracture surgery, and the same guys who thought Yao would be ok in 6-8 weeks, only to get total reconstruction of the foot surgery?

    Yeah, ok....
     
  15. ctry2582

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    Adjust your thinking about Wafer not being here, our draft picks, TMac WILL play another game in a Rockets uniform, etc then.

    Instead of bashing everybody who doesn't see eye to eye with you
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Actually, I don't blame the staff, they are not infallible, but Tmac's injuries happened before here too, and Yao is just too big overall....

    I am not sure why people blame the medical staff, when they are REACTING to an injury on the court, not causing the injuries.

    I mean none of them even deal with the players until they are injured.

    Just mind numbing.

    DD
     
  17. t_mac1

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    all i know is the organization does not want to go through another debacle like last yr in terms of tracy going in and out of the lineup. when tracy plays, he'll keep playing.

    and i'm sure neither the team nor tracy can say when he's ready. all we know is that his rehab is going well, and he just started on-court (light) activities a few weeks ago. b/c of that, it's still very early to say when he's ready.

    so really, i don't think they're keeping quiet to surprise the fans. they're keeping quiet to not make any ridiculous proclamations that may not come true. like i said, they're going to be methodical about this.

    when tracy is done with his rehab, the team will check to see how ready he is. if he is, then they'll say something. but i'm sure the team will talk more about tracy as his on-court activities increase b/c then they'll know how close tracy is from playing.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Bashing? Really? ROFLOL....I am not the basher, I am the bashee !

    This is just a guess of a topic on an internet message board, hardly bashing.

    And Von.....still want him back.....

    :)

    DD
     
  19. ctry2582

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    I agree with you, which is why I don't belive this tin foil hat theory DD posted.

    And we have every right to be leary of this medical staff. You can't come here and speculate that the Rockets know EXACTLY how far along TMac's rehab is going, when, they've shown in the past that they on more then one occassion had NO CLUE on how some Rockets players rehab was supposed to go.
     
  20. DudeWah

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    I don't think T-Mac is leaving this team anytime soon.

    If for no other reason than one man: Leslie Alexander
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    Les has repeated it over and over again that you don't let a player like McGrady go...

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/6267969.html
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    Yeah, while the article is a few months old, I don't think Les' opinions have changed that greatly on the situation. So, if you tie those comments into what DD is saying, I think it is safe to assume that Tracy is probably staying for at least this year..
     

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