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The Tmac Theory

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. worzel gummidge

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    That still makes him a half season rental wanted only by contenders. Teams in that position won't be offering real assets to get him. Most likely expiring contract/s, taking on more salary, and low pick/s.

    IMO it's all eyes on Minnesota and Sacramento.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Fine, call it what you like, just speculating about what the Rockets might be doing.

    Let's try to focus on the topic and not the source......

    :D

    Maybe this thread will prove the theory that people can't have a legitimate discussion about Tmac on this board....

    This should be about what everyone thinks the Organization is doing....not about...how you feel about Tmac the person or player etc...

    We shall see how it develops.....so far it is about 50/50....some people get the topic, the rest are eating Forrest Gump's box of chocolates...

    DD
     
  3. mcgrady33090

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    wts the point if tmac come back, which playoff team in the west we have a chance against, hornets maybe, porland again maybe its settin up for another 1st round exist
     
  4. HowsMyDriving

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    i'm pretty sure the rockets don't want him back. not as a player for our team anyway. all they want is for him to have enough value that trading him will bring something worthwhile back.

    its a lot easier to sell another team on "contract year" tmac being motivated by success if he can actually run and jump. even though trading for a "healthy" tmac means they don't get bailed out by insurance money on his contract.

    at the end of last season, the prevailing thought was that tmac had played his last game in a rockets uniform.
     
  5. Fyreball

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    Well, if your theory does pan out, I think that it would bolster our chances of trading him. Nobody out there wants to trade for a non-contributing player like McGrady because it would be impossible to tell fans that you're still trying to win. I don't think he'll be back by the start of the season, but I do think he'll be back before the All-Star Game.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Yes, true, it does give them many more options with him as an expiring deal, or as a player.

    DD
     
  7. TMac4Life#1

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    with a post count of 54,776 your just now realizing this?? LOL boy where have you been sir :D .. You should have already known that anything about McGrady is going to turn into a war
     
  8. verse

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    So...what of you and Doc's proclamations last year of how TMac was done and would never suit up for the Rockets again? I remember disputing you two back then and it seems you are coming around to the other side of the table (as you are apt to do).
     
  9. Depressio

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    Morey could be playing mind games by rarely talking about him. Or, more likely, the organization could just simply be tired of him.

    I'm more inclined to believe the latter, not some hair-brained theory that Daryl Morey likes to play with the emotions of fans for Tracy McGrady's benefit even though he's wasted millions of dollars from the organization.

    Call me crazy.
     
  10. sbyang

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    Or you could look at it a different way: the team has been so disappointed by Tmac's injuries that they don't want to get anyone's hopes up.

    I also find it hard to believe that they would tell people he's not coming back until mid season when they are trying to sell tickets in a bad economy.
     
  11. ctry2582

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    Again what do the Rockets care on how we, the fans, perceive TMac?

    You base your theory on how the Rockets are mum about his rehab. They're not mum for a reason. They're mum because nobody knows. Nobody, not TMac, not Morey, not Tim Grover, nobody has said when he'll be back. They've thrown out some dates that he might be back, but, they just don't know.

    Bottomline, I'll tell you the Rockets thinking.

    The Rockets want TMac back as soon as possible. Unlike a lot of fans here, who think he's a cancer, a baby, useless, should never don a Rockets uniform again, etc, the Rockets know TMac back gives them the best shot of winning. Especially with Yao out.

    They're going to work the deadline hard, as more teams will end up being sellers as their season isn't going as planned, teams want to get further under the cap for '10. But, Morey will only deal TMac for young talent. None of these nonsense trades the GARM likes to spew, like getting a Rip Hamilton or a Tayshaun Prince.

    If no deal, then Morey let's the 23M expiring come off the books for themselves.

    Bottom line, this theory sucks not because of the source, but because it's some tin foil hat conspiracy theory that thinks the Rockets care how us fans perceive TMac, thus witholding information back on when he's coming back, so when he does come back at the start of the year, us fans, especially the ones who dislike him, will be happy to see 'how hard he's worked to get back'

    Then it's supposed to be all is right in the world?

    *puts on tin foil hat
     
  12. Big MAK

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    I think the Rockets organization is just counting the days till he is outta here. They arnt holding him like a pair of aces, they are simply ignoring him. If he comes back in great health, good for him, if not, no biggie. He is not part of the Rockets future past this next season.
     
  13. Depressio

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    Ideal situation:

    Tracy McGrady comes back mid-season and is stellar, practically his old self. At the end of the season, his contract expires... Morey writes up a new one at the MLE. McGrady, feeling bad for screwing the organization for the last year and a half for approximately $30 million, signs the MLE for 3 years.

    The Rockets, once the big-name free agents are signed, use the remaining $5 to $10 million of cap space to sign some bargain free agents that were neglected because of the high caliber free agent crop.

    Likelihood: 1%
     
  14. ctry2582

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    Exactly, he's not coming back next season.

    So the Rockets want us to see how hard TMac comes back next season by not hyping up his potential return.

    Then what?

    TMac comes back in time to start the regular season, plays like the 22 game winning streak/playoff TMac, the Rockets fare better than expected, and then what?

    Rockets fans start to turn the tide on their feelings, and maybe even rumblings on we should bring TMac back. He looks good.

    This is where the theory takes a turn for the worse, as, if your theory is true, this could be a likely outcome.

    Problem is, the Rockets don't want him back after this year
     
  15. tested911

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    With a pair of these anything is possible!

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  16. thacabbage

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    This statement is painfully ironic coming from the guy who typically hijacks every McGrady thread with his "HIS STYLE IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO WINNING SHEESH DANGIT, DD" rants.

    LOL. Honestly Dakota, I'm beginning to wonder if you're supposed to be some sort of caricature played out by BrianKagy. You ranted to the tune of 10,000 posts last winter that he was done (and for the better) and now you bestow upon us your grandiloquent theory of his imminent return. I don't think I could script this.
     
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    lol. well he did say that he is fickle minded on his opening post.
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    My T-Mac theory is that the organization is pushing all the right buttons to make you and other NBA execs think that T-Mac might come back earlier than schedule, when in reality he has been since Jan 2009 and will continue to be for the next 18 months, "Tracy McGrady's Expiring Contract". Hopefully other teams are optimistic like you are that he can play again, because with the surgery he had and the track record for comebacks of people with his mental strength (actually to call Penny Hardaway's mental strength on par with T-Mac's is an insult to Penny), it's going to have to be against significant odds for T-Mac to return at an all-star level.
     
  19. Seth

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    DaDakota i pretty much respect what you say, but i think theis time you went to far into farfetched arguments.

    I am pretty sure that what he did last year didn´t get him too many friends in the organization, or worst, he lost the ones he had left.

    The main reason why Morey rarely talks about him might also be that he is really pissed at him, and just as he did with Artest, he just don´t talk about what he don´t like about a player, because in the future that might hurt the franchise asset he is, but anythingg else.

    As i said, i am pretty sure that the organization is not happy with the way TMac handled his situation, and as they did with Artest, they are keeping everything at home, but that´s it, i don´t see any kind of scenario where Morey would hesitate to send him out if he could.
     
  20. kevC

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    Maybe Dakota is a group of different people? It explains a lot of things. The fat guy in videos is just the front man :D .
     

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