15Then he asked them, "Who do you say I am?" 16Simon Peter answered, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." From the Gospel of Matthew chap. 16
Unitarians do not believe Jesus was divine and thus not the "son of God". Aren't we all sons and daughters of God?
Messiah is not he same thing as "son of God". The Jewish people were looking for the next David, a warrior king that was not divine. Jesus was not that. Thus, they are still waiting. Christians are waiting for the same thing; they just call it the second coming.
Jesus was different from the expectation of most Jews, no doubt. But clearly the implication from many Jews was that he was the Son of God. And THAT meant something different than what you're talking about when you ask, "aren't we all the sons and daughters of God??" The answer to your question is, yes...but it's not the same thing they were talking about back then.
God made Adam from dirt and then He breath life into him. He made Eve from one of Adam's ribs. We are all decendents from Adam and Eve. Jesus was with God before He was born a man via a virgin birth. He is His only Son. But... John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name. Who's name?
Partially true- You are right most of the Jews of Jesus day were looking for something other than who He was. But no, I am not looking for a warrior king nor the next David. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.
Crazy big understatement. The jews wanted an warrior king that would them free from their oppressor's yoke. Here what they got instead: A man who lived in obscurity for the first 27 or so years of his life. Note that the average life expectany back then was likely mid 30s. An implicaiton here is that Jesus "wasted" the first half (16-26) of his adult life. Another implicaiton is that Jesus was probably considered "an elder" when he did begin his preaching. A man who actively preached for a single year, again in the obscurity of the Galiean countryside. A man who closest followers understood that he was wise but not his wisdom (until it was too late) during his year of preaching. A man on his first trip to the "big city" and was killed almost right away. It is very understandable how the average Jew would have misssed the whole Jesus affair. A man who would save their souls but not their worldly *sses from the Romans, their oppressor du jour. Jews probably didn't even know that their souls needed saving, since they were God's people. etc.
First of all, let me say that I certainly mean no disrespect in asking my questions. This is for informational purposes exclusively. Now that I got my disclaimer out of the way , I have heard Christians refer to Jesus as God (i.e. people pray to Jesus, etc.). A good place in the Bible that justifies this is John 10.30 where Jesus says that he is the Alpha and the Omega. Yet in the Bible, there are numerous places where Jesus speaks to the Father. My question is, and forgive me for the lack of analytical thought in asking, but if Jesus is the Father , then who is he speaking to? If he is not God, then why do many Christians hold this belief that he is?
yeah...and you see all that in the NT. you see people trying to get him politically active and him basically saying he's not here for that. you read the OT foreshadowing of the one they're waiting on...and you can certainly see how it can be read as waiting on a warrior king...but in other ways you can't see that at all. Jesus, from my view, fulfills all that prophecy. it wasn't his first trip to the big city, by the way. as for Jews reception of him...some estimates i've read indicate that about 1/3 of all Jews in Jerusalem became a part of this new sect of Judaism that followed Jesus. i'd have to hunt down that source for you.
Theological Cleanup on Ailse 12. Jesus's divinity was a real thorny issue in the first two or three centuries after his death. How could a son of God not be divine? How could Jesus be divine and there be only one God? Who is this Holy Spirit fellow and how does he fit into the equation/
one of these times you'll spell aisle right. i like the approach of the blind man who was healed by Jesus. the religious leaders ask the man who Jesus is..."how can this happen from a sinner??" "we all know Jesus is a sinner" "he doesn't come from God!" and the man says, "i don't know about all that..but i was blind and now I can see!"
Luke tells the story of Jesus visiting the Temple when he was 12. that the other Gospels don't have this story does not, in my opinion, mean that they don't agree. it just means Luke included a story that the others did not.
It is simple- Father and Son were in heaven- Holy Spirit at work in the earth. Father sends Son to earth, He is born of a virgin and becomes a man (human). In the beginning God revealed Himself as one God. Then further revealed Himself through the work of the Holy Spirit. Then further revealed Himself through His Son. Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Simple.
