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The Thread of The Donald

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Fantasma Negro, Jul 15, 2020.

  1. Fantasma Negro

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    #FreeHongKong #TrumpSavesTheWorld
     
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    The Democratic Party has ran Chicago forever, for better and worse. In order to win elections in the city of Chicago you have to run as a democrat.

    In fairness to the Democratic Party in Chicago, they have made a lot progress in a number of areas and the vast majority of the city is very safe and it really is an impressive city.

    Having said that, I have been very critical of the government in Chicago and also the attitude of the people living in Chicago. While crime in the city is actually down and the murder rate is less than it was decades ago; it should be better. The city is the most segregated I have spent time in. In parts of the city black and whites will not see each other for days. The political will and the will of the people is just to push all the blacks into one area and let them shoot and kill each other.

    The short answer to your question as to why it isn’t better is... the city of Chicago doesn’t care enough to demand the time and resources be used to fix it. These areas of town are 95-99% black. The people that don’t live in these 5-10 neighborhoods avoid them... the blacks that have moved to the suburbs avoid them as well.... so you have poor black people killing poor black people.

    Go look at the weekend murders in Chicago... 90% are in one of 6-8 neighborhoods... and in that 90% it is all blacks killing blacks.
     
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    It looks like this is all local tax breaks, not federal. Sounds like a win win for Travis and Tesla.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/14/...s-travis-county-cybertruck-factory-incentives

    Travis County Commissioner’s Court, the policy-making and administrative arm of the local government, approved an agreement on Tuesday that will save Tesla around $14 million in property taxes over the next 10 years. Late last week, the Del Valle school district, which is near where the factory would be located, approved an agreement that would grant Tesla close to $50 million in tax rebates over the same time frame
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    Even with the tax breaks, Austin stands to benefit from the property tax that Tesla would bring with the factory, as much of the proposed site is largely unoccupied. Travis County currently only receives about $6,400 per year from a sand and gravel mining company that operates on the property. But Tesla would pay closer to $880,000 per year, or $8.8 million over the first 10 years, as long as it keeps up with the investment and hiring milestones required by the contract.

    Tesla has also agreed to put 10 percent of the county’s tax rebate back into the local community. “Tesla consistently emphasized their desire to invest in the community, especially as it related to job training and workforce development (to include Huston-Tillotson University and Del Valle schools), public transportation, and affordable housing,” the county commissioners wrote in the agenda for Tuesday’s meeting. “Travis County had as its goal creating a long-term philanthropic partnership with Tesla, not just a transactional agreement to be reviewed once a year.”

    Last Thursday, Del Valle school district approved an agreement that would allow Tesla to pay property tax on just 20 percent of the factory’s assessed value, which will save the company about $50 million. That agreement was passed in a 7 to 1 vote, with board member Susanna Woody saying she didn’t “feel comfortable with this process,” which also largely happened behind closed doors. “I felt like it was ‘get it done this way or [Tesla] will move somewhere else,’” Woody said.​
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla breaks many of their employment promises. Look at the damage they did in NY in the Buffalo region. They ****ed over that city so ****ing bad.

    These corporations don't need tax breaks to build factories. They still are profitable without them. The opportunity cost is still there without those tax breaks.
     
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    Never trust Tesla.

    https://buffalonews.com/business/lo...cle_fe1e6866-9dea-5c56-a217-b3bc35a69acd.html

    They don't desert trust. They don't deserve tax break incentives for promises. They should have lost that privelage with that stunt they pulled.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    No, they certainty don't need it. But there is competition for them and thus, cities will give them something. It's the playing field you are dealt with. What you don't want is nothing in return or worse, negative return. The local and state gov should be held responsible if it result in a bad deal - and yes, there is an issue with winning political point now and let the people hold the edge of the knife later. That's why we should have more of the AOC type of politician that speak up against a bad deal (even if wrong) ...
     
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    He has been too busy making racist comments and crafting overly strict crime bills...
     
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    Where’s the part where Trump is racist? All I’ve seen is the 40 years of documented clips of Biden putting his foot in his mouth and continuing to do so. He seems to take the Black vote for granted, IMO. I don’t know how he got a pass with his recent statements given today’s climate. Footage of him on the senate floor railing on about the crime bill in the 90’s certainly paints him as person who is using another group.

    I’m not even positive he’s actually alive...lol. Would anyone be pissed if they voted for someone and they pulled a bait and switch? Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
     
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    Remember Trump is racist because it fits our narrative.

    But Biden is not ... even when he calls black kids roaches and uses ain't on the radio to talk down to black people because he thinks they can't speak proper English.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    What is your criteria in order for it to be shown that Trump has done racist things? Does telling American congresswomen to go back to their countries qualify? How about saying an American judge of Hispanic descent couldn't be impartial and wasn't treating Trump fairly? How about lying about seeing thousands of Muslims dancing in the streets? How about calling for the death penalty for 5 innocent blacks/latinos?

    Or do you need to actually hear him say the N word?
     
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    Is that seriously all you got???

    Hold Biden to 1/10th of THAT standard and look at the footage available to you. He’s being used and in turn using the Black vote. What has he done for the Black community in 40 yrs? He’s used them. 40 yrs he’s had to try to tackle the core problems that still exist. And all of a sudden NOW he’s on it? Cmon man... it would be funny. But it’s not!

    Trump can honestly claim the historic job and economy numbers which open opportunities. The history of Dem governing the dense urban cities has failed miserably. They fell into the sleeziness and greed of politics and did nothing. 40 years of history proves my point.
     
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    Google Biden and racial jungle
     

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