*Maye’s (fixed for you). Maye’s wheels have been pumped like crazy. I don’t think his best games are as good as Klubnik’s game against them in the AAC championship game and that’s a genuine freshman starter. Again, as stated in the previous post it was in reference to Trader’s argument… moot point. I also think BY has franchise potential and don’t believe we should be waiting a year for whoever it is, we’re struggling to keep t the worst record as it is right now.
Well I wonder what he thinks of AJ McCarron or McElroy. Both were amazing with Bama, didn’t grades first round lol
Excuse me grammar police. You’re so smart, thanks. Stop it, you keeping making these comparisons that can’t be equal or even measurable. Clemson, Bama are elite talent rosters. Even in down years, there is no comparison to what UNC or USC have depth wise. Maye’s worst games are towards the end of the season, and if you watched them they weren’t bad games. He is their offense, as good as he is he can’t carry entire teams even specifically game planned for. Now he has to adjust. Guaranteed Young wasn’t doing what Maye did with that roster.
Just to expound on an earlier post, I think that Young's stock is going to take a hit heading into the draft. While Stroud is going to have pretty standard measurables and Levis and Richardson are going to blow the combine out of the water Young is going to be nitpicked to death when he doesnt measure out to 6 feet and 200 lbs. I know that evaluators already know he is small but when that is confirmed and then these other first round guys are all prototype and above (and, in the case of Levis and Richardson also ++ athletes) recency bias is going to be hard to overcome at 1.1. I think that you combine that with the hype that Anderson will have at that same time and, even if they end up with the first pick, the Texans could easily pass on Young thinking they can get Anderson AND either Levis or Richardson. Really it comes down to how much better you think Young is than the other QBs because I think that Anderson is going to be considered SIGNIFICANTLY better than whoever they might get at the Cleveland pick if they pass on him at 1.1.
My post said absolutely nothing about who is drafted. Just that we don’t draft any QB this year, and then have 6-8 wins next year (good for draft pick 8-11 right now) and a stopgap qb. And thus not getting a top qb next year either.
That's exactly how someone ends up with a Zach Wilson. Ignoring all the flaws in their tape and becoming enamored with the underwear Olympics. Young is rated the best, because he has the best tape. Many people on this board wish that wasn't the case, but that doesn't change the facts. If we pick someone because they have superior physical traits and they never develop the multiple areas of their game that were missing on tape, we only have ourselves to blame for getting another Zach Wilson, Blake Bortles, etc.
I don't have beef with you and don't want to argue but check your facts. USC had the 8th overall recruiting ranking in 2021, 5th for transfers. In 2022, they had 6th overall and 1st overall for transfers (that was players who played this season). For 2022, NC had a better recruiting ranking than Clemson. 14th overall in the country in 21 and 11th overall in the country in 22 (42nd for transfers, while Clemson was 166 nationally). Top 15 in the country is no joke. Maye played great this season, he is prototypical. I don't see the point of playing lottery of if we will get a top pick or not, when there is a great prospect in Young this year.
One class doesn’t make a roster, the overall talent on Bama and Clemson is miles better than UNC and USC
I think most of us here agree that Caleb Williams and Drake Maye look like great prospects. The biggest hang up for those that don't want to wait for next year is the very real uncertainty that the team will be in position to pick either of them balanced against the almost near certainty that we can pick Bryce Young.
For QB specifically, the receiving talent in college is the most important aspect. Both USC and UNC have better receivers than Alabama has this year. Josh Downs and Jordan Addison. If you disagree, tell me which Alabama receiver this year will be drafted and what round they'll go in.
If that’s true, you’d be able to name this so called talent that’s going to be drafted instead of just stating it as fact. This seems to be mostly a high school star ranking contest for you. What matters is how people actually perform in college. The receiving talent for USC and UNC outperformed Alabama’s this year and as a whole they will be drafted higher.
Brooks and Burton are both thought of as top 2 round targets. Burton isn’t declaring, but he’s been mocked in the first round. Gibbs is the 2nd best back in the draft by a lot of scouting services, first round pick. Latu is a mid round TE pick that could go as high as the 2nd. The receivers for USC and UNC performed because of the QB play, but each team really only had one “guy” Downs is still only a 2nd round projected player. What first round pick does UNC have?
That is one way of looking at it. Another way is that guys with lesser physical gifts have a lower ceiling. I might be the most talented QB out there but if I cant see over the line or get the ball to my WR in a tight window or if I might break the next time my LT whiffs on a blitzing OLB or DE then how far am I going to take my team? I believe that young is talented I just dont know that that talent in his physical package is what I would take at 1.1 when I could get a stud at another value position that is another need on a talent bereft team.
Let's be realistic please. No team is picking Burton in the first two rounds. We can always find a cherry-picked mock draft to confirm our bias, but the reality is he didn't even have 600 yards this year and barely had any production last year. He's not declaring this year, because he's been advised that he wouldn't be an early round pick. I'll use Nfl Mock Draft Database for my comparison because they aggregate all mock drafts and it shows how prospects are viewed as of right now. This is the projections for each team for skill positions. UNC and USC also had some 5th round running backs that I didn't list. Alabama - Both Brooks and Burton are projected as mid to late 3rd round picks as of today. Jahmyr Gibbs 1st Round. Cameron Latu as 5th round. UNC - Josh Downs as a 2nd and very close to a 1st round. Andre Greene Jr as 3rd round. USC - Jordan Addison as mid 1st. Mario Williams as 4th round. C.J. Williams as 3rd round. My overall takeaway from looking at all of the draft grades for the next few years is that while UNC and USC both have better overall receiving talent this year, Alabama does have a much better running back. The overall team talent on offense is Alabama, USC, and then UNC. I'd still argue that having better receivers is the most important, but there's no denying that Alabama has overall better talent. Based on the projections I could see Alabama becoming dominant again as early as next year if they sort out the coaching issues they had this year. Defensively there is no comparison. Alabama has way more talent than USC or UNC. Especially from the edge rusher position. USC is closer to Alabama talent wise than it is to UNC.
Most QBs can't see over the line, that's why throwing windows exist. Throwing into tight windows has more to do with anticipation than pure raw arm strength. If you throw late, no matter how much arm strength you have, it will likely be picked. I'd rather have someone that has anticipation which is another trait that isn't a guarantee it can be learned. Every qb no matter their size gets hurt. It seems to be less correlated with actual size and more to do with individual propensity to get injured. You notice it's usually the same players getting injured all the time and when you go back and look at college and high school, they were also getting hurt there.
If Jameson Williams and John Metchie didn't get hurt, he would have won the championship last year. There is a degree of luck in a team sport where so many people are responsible for the outcome.
I would argue that regardless of whether Young had the best WR's which he had last year or the WR's he has this year, that You're a fan of midget p*rn.
