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The Texans HAVE to draft Bryce Young

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Two Sandwiches, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. Blatz

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    wrong thread
     
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    Pssh!! Don’t they know that’s the messiah they are talking about? I can’t name one of Carolina’s receivers at the moment but I bet my next paycheck if Stroud was there we’d be talking about their #1 that just showed up out of no where and the rookie they drafted lighting the world on fire. But o well, if if’s and buts amirite?
     
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    I will say, I agree with the premise that, no one would be harping so much about Bryce’s season if it weren’t for Stroud literally breaking every record book on a team thought to have a top 3 pick next year.

    I remember the Jags having 2 years in a row of number one pick, they got Lawrence “a generational qb” and were the worst team again (I think they took Trayvon walker?..

    and who could forget the bengals? Who picked Joe burrow, then sucked and had the 3rd pick of the draft and got Jamarr Chase.

    So I think Bryce is getting a tough rap. However:
    * his team moved up to take him, meaning they weren’t the worst team with the first pick when getting him, they were better and have seemingly gotten worse.
    * you can’t get Walker or Chase next year because you don’t have a pick
    * stroud was also in play (there was no qb even close to burrow, and I guess there could have been better edges picked than walker but it doesn’t matter like a qb does) and he has EXPLODED better than anyone could have imagined on a team that was thought to be worse than Carolina.
    ** Carolina has ****ed themselves too to bottom and Bryce is the the face of that everyone is punching.
     
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    I completely disagree with that premise.

    The Panthers made a historic mistake by giving up the mother lode to draft a QB who is 27th in yards, 28th in QBR, 29th in completion% and 33rd in YPA. Bryce has been the worst QB in the NFL by a wide margin. He was the #1 pick in the draft and the Panthers mortgaged their future to select him.

    There would be a LOT of harping regardless of CJ. Obviously CJ magnifies the smoking dumpster fire in Carolina, but it would still be a huge story without him.
     
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    Maybe I need to rephrase. I was trying to say that it was Carolina’s fault, not Bryce being bad. I mean he has been bad, but Trevor Lawrence and Joe burrow were both #1 picks that lead their teams to a top pick and a 3rd overall pick their first year. Bryce doing the same wouldnt be as huge a deal. Except the panthers gave up their pick. And CJ is also killing it.

    but I didn’t mean to say there would be no harping. Ppl will do that about everything. And Bryce has also been way worse than I pictured.
     
  8. Scarface281

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    It's not just about leading the team to a bad record, it's the play on the field. Both Lawrence and especially Burrow had several wow moments as rookies. Both threw for over 300 yards in several games. Both you saw potential in. You don't see that in Bryce Young who hasnt gone over 250 yards passing once this season. There are UDFA rookie QBs showing more flash and passing for more yards than BY.
     
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    Once again, not trying to say Bryce has been good. I just think the suckiness is being amplified by the ineptitude of the FO and the amazing play of Stroud. I looked and Burrow had a great year but the team kept losing. But Lawrence, honestly he was bad. Only 4 games over 250 yards and 2 of those were over 300, but 3/4 were in the final games of the season. He also had 12 TDs to 17 INTs. And 3 total wins. Flashes or not, no one questioned him despite him and his team being terrible.

    anyways, I’m sorry to have stirred this up, I honestly don’t care, we have Stroud, it doesn’t feel real, Texans finally catching a break. I don’t feel bad about the Panthers. That’s been us for the last 3-5 years, let someone else deal with it.
     
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    Unfortunately, Bryce does not have the physical size and tools as Lawrence does.

    Panthers should definitely play Bryce the rest of the way and next year. Don't give up on Bryce just yet, let's see what a new HC and some improvement to the team can do for him.
     
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    Go look at the highlights, not just the stats (where BY still falls short no pun intended). Lawrence showed flashes, such as making NFL throws, pocket awareness, etc., in his rookie season that showed you he'd he a competent NFL QB at the very least despite throwing INTs (which many many rookie QBs who become very good to great do) Burrow of course the same thing.

    All Bryce has shown is he might be a backup in 5 years or on espn's college gameday. The Panthers aren't great and have some problems, but Bryce is one of those problems. Nice kid but not so nice an NFL player so far
     
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    Not to beat a dead horse as others have already replied, but if you watched Joe Burrow during his rookie season, he was outstanding. His pass protection was absolutely horrendous, but his pocket presence was next-level and he maximized his opportunities. The Bengals were complete junk but he still manage a good TD/INT ratio, YPG, etc and it was evident he was a special player. He's probably the most mature rookie QB I've ever seen.
     
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    I know, I went and looked back at the stats and corrected myself in the next post. He was good, just on a **** team, but Lawrence’s stats look much less than “generational” but to be fair, I didn’t watch either qb closely. Again, just ecstatic Texans have what they have.
     
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    Dont do it bobby

     
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    David Tepper will definitely hire someone he can control and bully behind the scenes. A young, first-time HC fits that bill.

    Jim Harbaugh represents the antithesis of what Tepper wants in a HC.
     
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    Getting rid of Watson and Hopkins was the best thing that ever happened to the Texans org.

    Me first guys and yes the not practicing thing was an issue. Same with Clowney.

    Can people just be bad people without race being brought into it?
     
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    Yep, midgets need not apply.
     
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    No ouch,

    We're on the brink of WWIII because of that election. Obama's still running the country. He's a Hamas sympathizer. Barbarians. Hopefully Netenyahu will do what needs to be done.
     
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    Get Young a couple of WR's and a LT and he will look much better. Move Ekonu inside to LG and the OL will look much better.
     
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    Fortunately the more Tepper meddles the more he'll get a reputation for it and the young, promising future head coaches won't want any part of that franchise.
     

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