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The Texans #1 Draft Pick Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Brando2101, Feb 7, 2014.

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What should the Texans do with the #1 Pick?

  1. Trade it Away

    14.5%
  2. Draft Blake Bortles, QB, UCF

    1.2%
  3. Draft Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M

    0.6%
  4. Draft Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

    27.5%
  5. Draft Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina

    30.1%
  6. Draft Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn

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  7. Draft Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M

    25.1%
  1. Fulgore

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    Yep it's a big difference. Aldon Smith ran a 4.74 but when it's game time he looks much faster. Mario ran 4.7 and Clay Matthews 4.68
     
  2. Remii

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    Yea... J.J. made the defense look a lot better. Throw Clowney in there and they'll be just as good as Seattle...Lol.. Even the year before last in two games New England scored more points than the Indiana Pacers and Rodgers had a shooting fish in a barrel contest.

    News flash ----> Matt Stafford suxks. The kid still throws side arm, he's not clutch, and he wears his hat backwards... They should have paid Calvin $200 million for sticking around.

    Do you know Seattle won the super bowl and Bennett was their best pass rusher and he was undrafted and they got him off the free agent market for cheap...??? Seattle doesn't even have a double digit sack guy. Do you know Seattle gave up multiple draft picks for Percy Harvin and gave him a big contract and did you see the effect he had in the one complete game he played this past year...???

    By the way... Last time I checked _ Joe Flacco beat the breaks off that great San Francisco defense. He would have put up fiddy if the lights wouldn't have "accidentally" went off.
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    When is the last time New England won a championship? I remember a G-Men dline being a huge part in winning two superbowls...

    That's exactly my point. Get a good WR and whose going to throw him the ball? WR is the most dependent position in Football. Also it is of literally no need for the Texans right now.

    Not compared to LB, OL, QB and DL.

    You really are going to try to argue that Harvin had as much impact as Bennet did? Harvin barely played.

    Also, Seattle gets pressure a different kind of way. By having 4 studs in their secondary it makes the Dline's job a lot easier.

    With Clowney and Watt it would be the opposite. The theory is that they would wreak havoc on the Oline and force the QB into soiling himself every sunday.

    Lol, you believe in that conspiracy? Lemme guess, NFL doesn't want blowouts in the superbowl? Even though it seems to happen like every other year...like this past year...where the team with all that offense got completely embarassed...

    There is not one way to build a defense, not one way to build a team either...but I know one thing is certain...having just a All-world WR and a mediocre QB gets you nowhere in the NFL.

    Megatron now...Fitz for years after Warner left...and Johnson for like half of his career prove that time and time again. No reason investing a #1 pick for a WR when you literally don't know whose going to be your QB next season.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    You'll learn that he doesn't believe anything he's saying, he just spouts outlandish take after outlandish take trying to get a rise out of people. He's basically a CF version of Skip Bayless.
     
  5. MrVengeance

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    It has always been between Clowney or Bridgewater. Everyone else is either smokescreen or hype created by media to sway average fan's Point of View. I'm more convinced more than ever that its most likely going to be Clowney than bridgewater. Just hearing Coach O'Brien talk about how they will utilize watt and I feel more comfortable now that they will position Clowney better to maximize his overall talent. I still feel he is suited better for a 4-3 Defensive team.

    As for the Quarterback, No one has better game tape than Bridgewater. Things he does do not show up on combine or pro days. As far as everyone changing their decision on who is a better quarterback after combine and pro days are putting way too much weight on these days. Manziel needs a team to built around him and i do not see Texans going that route and for bortles he is not starting any time soon. He needs atleast year or two before he can start. He is still a project and i do not think Mcnair wants a project quarterback he wants to win now.
     
  6. Raven

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    To thin below the waist, ballerina legs.
     
  7. Bezzle

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    Agreed, but I think they'll lean towards Bridgewater, with ease. Even if OB doesn't believe he will be ready to start Week 1, I can certainly see Fitzpatrick starting til Week 3-4, until Bridgewater is better acclimated. Mcnair DEFINITELY built up the hype for Clowney so other teams will overvalue the #1 pick and trade us more than they should. For everyone comparing a Clowney-JJ Watt pairing to the Seahawks (I've even heard the back-to-back Superbowl NYG), take a look at who their QB was at that time, what they accomplished that year, and who on our roster even cuts it close in comparison.

    Go for the SURE pick in Teddy and avoid swinging for the fences in the late rounds.
     
  8. DonkeyMagic

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    pointy elbows
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    SEND IN THE CLOWN(EY)S
     
  10. LabMouse

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    A sure pick is Clowney, not Teddy, you got a wrong order. To me, the best option is to trade the pick down. If we can not do it, draft Clowney, then use the 31th pick for a QB.

     
  11. Bogey

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    I think regardless of what we do with 1.1, hopefully we trade 2.1 for extra picks. I'd also rather not go QB in second if we pass on the top 3, I think the group after that is fairly equal and can get better value in the 3rd. I'd just load up on D if we get Clowney. So many holes to fill.
     
  12. endoftheworld

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    http://www.nj.com/times-sports/index.ssf/2014/03/eckel_three_personnel_men_try.html

     
  13. Remii

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    So isn't that a bad thing that the Texans so called great defense got ate up by a team that haven't won a super bowl. And now that defense is worst...

    And the Giants didn't have a great defense. Those guys got hot in the playoffs (like Green Bay's defense did) but during the regular season they were not statistically great.



    You're right there is no one way to build a defense but one thing is for certain it takes years to accomplish that (see Seattle and San Francisco). Also in the new NFL era Tampa, the early Ravens, Pittsburgh with their 1st ring with Big Ben, and Seattle are the only TRULY dominant defensive teams to win the super bowl (I didn't mention New England because they were cheating and they had Brady). Also I believe Simeon Rice is the only high drafted outside pass rusher in that group of teams but many of the Tampa guys took less money to keep that defense together (can't always count on players doing that). Joey Porter wasn't a 1st round pick, Bennett was undrafted, Willie McGinnis wasn't a 1st round pick, and D Brooks was a late 1st round pick... Yes there are many ways to build a defense but history shows you don't have to draft an outside pass rusher #1 overall to do that... You're arguing the opposite. You're not saying I'm wrong _ you're saying history is wrong...

    They could add Watkins, Robinson/Matthews, or a quarterback and possibly have an elite offense overnight.


    A theory is just what it is... A theory. Just like people use to have a theory the world is flat. And quarterbacks weren't soiling themselves while facing Clowney in college. But Dee Ford and J.J. could accomplish the same thing (in theory).

    Also Indy is trying to become a power run team so they can neutralize these high priced pass rushers like Seattle and San Francisco does.


    The point you are missing is that the great San Francisco Defense lost in the playoffs to Eli, Flacco, and Russell and none of those guys are elite...

    But not drafting Clowney is just my opinion. The Texans will probably think like you and draft him... And I'm fine with that because I don't mind watching car wrecks.
     
  14. Indaface

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    My thought process so far this offseason

    Early on: Clowney
    Late Jan-before combine: Leaning towards Bridgewater
    Post Combine: Clowney
    For a couple of days I bought into all the hype in late February: Leaning Manziel
    Since then : Clowney


    It's gotta be Clowney if they stay at #1. Would absolutely love a trade down but if that can't happen you take Clowney.
     
  15. ipaman

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    SECURE #1 PICK, NO PLAYER WORTH IT
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Well no QB worth it, there's a few players worth it including a generational defensive prospect.
     
  17. ipaman

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    Clowney - Scheme issues, Work ethic issues, Hips, Coverage skills?

    Mack - Buffalo????, can't cover in space, not best tackler, suspended 1 game for violating team rules

    Barr - Weak against the run and pass, very little experience,

    Honestly Clowney, Robinson, and Watkins are the only ones who probably deserve the #1 but again they each have issues. I stand by what I said, no clear cut perfect choice this year.
     
  18. tmacfor35

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    Clowney would have been number one last year, and if he stayed an extra year, next year as well.

    He is a clear cut. The Texans brass is just determining how if the need for QB is larger than drafting Clowney!
     
  19. ipaman

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    Drafting for need instead of talent is the wrong way to go in my opinion. If they evaluate Clowney with the highest grade then you take him.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    There are no scheme issues, there are no work ethic issues, he doesn't have the most fluid hips but he makes up for it in other areas, coverage skills are about the most irrelevant thing in the world for a pass rushing OLB or a DE.

    Mack's best trait is his coverage ability, he's a decent enough tackler, I hadn't heard about the suspension but he went to Johnny Buckwheat Jr College, who cares about their rules? LOL. He's still a very good all around OLB prospect, the biggest knock on him is that he's not really phenomenal at anything and his pass rushing leaves a lot to be desired.

    That's pretty much all legit criticism. He's about as raw a prospect as they come and his combine numbers were significantly worse than expected, he's still a decent prospect, but not a potential #1 guy

    I can agree with most of that, but even with 3 guys deserving of the top pick, that's pretty good and there's no such thing as a truly perfect choice, but Clowney, Robinson, and Watkins are pretty close to being perfect choices at their respective positions.
     

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