I'd rather trade the pick too, but there are a lot of things nobody wants that bad I'd like to trade away. You have to assume nobody else is any more excited about #1 than we are. Much less excited enough to give us more picks for. Anyone who says Sammy Watkins is the best receiver in the last 10 years is a complete idiot. Mike Mayock isn't a complete idiot, so he said Watkins was a top 10 pick and one of the best in 10 years. I certainly don't see Watkins as that. Taking a WR #1 this year would be really stupid though. Clowney, Robinson, Matthews, Mack. There are plenty of players that actually fill holes on our roster.
So you're saying that picking up a 3rd WR isn't an efficient use of the first overall pick in the draft? Crazy talk!
There's only one Daniel Snyder so people are on a pipe dream thinking they can get some type of RG3 deal. They better take what they can get. Sammy Watkins is a beast. But if you don't see it _ you don't see it. I'll go with my own opinion and Mike's and you're welcome to yours. But they will probably go with Clowney. McNair already said he reminds him of Mario. And that's the route the Texans went the last time they had the #1 pick, a dead in the water quarterback, an offense with only one offensive weapon in Dre (who has a hard time finding the end zone), and hired a coach who's never been a head coach in the NFL who is an offensive minded guy in Kubiak and drafted a defensive player. Smart move. Let's do that again...
No, you clearly don't understand what I was saying and you also aren't sure what you are trying to convey because whatever you were trying to say, makes no sense at all. Unless, of course, you're so smart to go beyond "bend" knowledge and move into the realm being clairvoyant
Mario was the best selection out of the other choices available at the top of the draft that year. VY and Leinart were busts and it took Bush several years before he actually became more than a 3rd down back.
Yup, but it's cool, he's been told this several times before. In fact, he knows what he's saying is BS, but he says it anyway. He also knows that adding a guy like Clowney to a team that already has JJ Watt and Cushing is MUCH different than adding Mario to a team with no one. It's all intellectual dishonesty, which is why I don't bother responding to him anymore. Furthermore, I'd bet he knows that the most ridiculous pick possible would be to go with a 3rd WR, which is why he's on the Watkins bandwagon.
He just realizes Manziel is the least viable option out of them all so he would rather go with the 2nd least most viable
Yup, what's funny is that if there was a group of Watkins fans here, he'd probably switch to being an Eric Ebron or Trey Millard fan just to try and get a rise out of people.
It's possible... Never know how players would have ended up in different situations. But just the same New Orleans won a Super Bowl with Bush and Tennessee made the playoffs with VY. All Mario did was put up individual #'s that was no help to the team and he got paid $100 million and still hasn't seen the playoffs. Just depends on how you look at it I guess. This time in the draft there's a game changing wide receiver who is better than Bush, QBs who are better than VY and Leinart, and even a stud offensive lineman in Robinson... Clowney probably isn't better than Mario and the offense is on it's way down and the Texans hired an offensive minded head coach on a team with a lack of offensive weapons so I wouldn't be surprised at all if they drafted Clowney because that's something the Texans would do.
Khalil Mack, huh? <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mel Kiper Jr's latest NFL mock draft 3.0 has Jadeveon Clowney at No. 3 to JAC and Johnny Manziel at No. 8 to MIN. <a href="http://t.co/83N63gKXj3">pic.twitter.com/83N63gKXj3</a></p>— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/statuses/444148604526018561">March 13, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
these guys are trolling at this point. they need to pick someone new each week so you have a reason to tune in. ridiculous.
Not a surprise.. He's easily the best defensive player in the draft with aaron donald coming in as a close 2nd.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Spoke with AFC oline coach who is studying SEC OTs & he thinks Clowney will struggle his rookie year as OTs will play him for inside move</p>— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/statuses/444095984532865024">March 13, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>That same oline coach said he was less than impressed with Clowney’s edge rush skills & thinks he is too dependent on inside moves</p>— Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/statuses/444096214296842241">March 13, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Wyoming QB Brett Smith: <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" lang="en"><p>Combine snub, I gave him a 3rd rnd grade RT <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL">@AllbrightNFL</a>: Brett Smith's official numbers: 6016 207, 10 inch hands. 4.51 official 40 time.</p>— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/statuses/444184702627237888">March 13, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brett Smith's official numbers: 6016 207, 10 inch hands. 4.51 official 40 time.</p>— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/statuses/444183885857828865">March 13, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Lol. Because game film and skill means nothing. How the guy measures out is what matters. Riiiight...
I don't get why you say this? Because Smith is two inches taller? I'll admit he intrigues me as a 4th or 5th round pick. Otherwise, no. I haven't seen video that makes him look that great...
McShay Prospect Ranking: Spoiler 1. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina Clowney has a freakish combination of length, initial burst and power as a pass-rusher, and he is a highly disruptive run defender. His straight-line speed (4.53 40-yard dash) is rare for a guy his size. He will have some questions to answer at his pro day and in individual interviews with teams, but I'm not anticipating any issues there, and he is the clear No. 1 prospect in this class from a talent standpoint. (2.) Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn Robinson is the most dominant blocker at the point of attack that I've ever evaluated on tape. He'll need time to develop as a pass-blocker, but he is remarkably athletic for his big frame and has the potential to be a very good pass protector in time -- and the raw tools to hold his own in that area right away. (3). Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo Mack has an ideal combination of height, weight, hand size, arm length and speed, and he was an incredibly productive player in college. His versatility as a guy who can provide support in pass coverage, run defense or as a pass-rusher adds to his value. (4.) Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson Watkins is one of four elite prospects in this class. He has some learning to do in terms of reading coverages and running an NFL route tree, as he's coming from a spread offense, but from a pure skill-set standpoint, he is elite. His acceleration stands out the most. (5.) Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M Matthews doesn't have the athleticism of Robinson or Taylor Lewan, but he is durable and versatile and has the pedigree to succeed as an NFL tackle. He is a very effective blocker in the running game and passing game. (6.) Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M Evans is a pit bull; he is one of the best receivers I've ever seen at coming down with 50-50 balls, and he is very physical and competitive as a downfield blocker and after the catch. He is the most proven downfield threat in this class, and possesses a great size and speed combination. (7.) Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan Lewan really stood out at the combine for his athleticism, and he now looks like a potential top-10 pick given his efficiency as a pass protector and run-blocker. (8.) Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville The issues that have come up with Bridgewater during the draft process are whether he has much upside, whether his lean frame can hold up year after year, and whether he has the vocal leadership skills to direct an offense. But he remains the No. 1 prospect on our board and a top-10 prospect overall because of his accuracy and ability to go through his progressions. He is the most pro-ready QB prospect in this class. (9.) C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama Mosley has a prototypical frame and above-average length (6-foot-2, 234 pounds with 33-inch arms) for the linebacker position, but where he really stands out on tape is as a playmaker with a tremendous motor and really good burst. (10.) Blake Bortles, QB, UCF Bortles has prototypical size at 6-5, 232 pounds, and while he doesn't have a great arm, it is strong enough to make all the NFL throws. He has good pocket presence and playmaking ability, but has some minor improvements to make in terms of his mechanics and accuracy. He scores well in terms of leadership and intangibles. (11.) Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State Gilbert can be inconsistent at times when it comes to his focus and he is a little tight when he turns and runs, but his straight-line speed (4.37 40 time), size, ball skills and overall playmaking ability make up for any minor flaws in his game. (12.) Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh Donald continues to rise up our board; I don't think there's a prospect who has helped his stock more during the postseason process than him. He's shorter than prototype size, but he has long arms and a powerful upper body and creates a lot of big plays with his anticipation and quickness -- and he's an excellent finisher. He's a perfect fit as a 3-technique defensive tackle. (13.) Eric Ebron, TE, UNC This draft class has some good tight ends, but Ebron is on a different level in terms of his athleticism and explosiveness both off the line and after the catch. He's a big play waiting to happen. (14.) Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State Despite the fact that he isn't the fastest cornerback you'll ever see, and he has solid but not elite ball skills, I think Dennard might be the best pure cover corner in this class. He has excellent recognition skills and instincts, and he was a true shutdown corner at times last season. (15.) Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville Pryor is a hammer in run support, with great instincts and the ability to deliver the big hit. He is at his best playing as an in-the-box safety, but he shows good range in zone coverage on tape. Spoiler (16.) Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama Clinton-Dix shows really good range, instincts and playmaking ability from the safety position. He didn't run all that well at the combine (4.58 40), but he displays good speed on tape. (17.) Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame The knock on Martin is his lack of ideal length, which is why some believe he'll end up as a guard in the NFL. But whether he ends up as a solid tackle or an elite guard, he is a solid prospect with quick feet, good technique and a mean streak on the field. (18.) Marqise Lee, WR, USC Lee didn't run a great 40 time at the combine (4.52 seconds), but he shows very good speed and explosiveness on tape, and is a big-play weapon after the catch and as a vertical route-runner. He had too many drops in 2013, but showed good ball skills during his freshman and sophomore seasons. (19.) Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State Roby continues to rise in these rankings. He needs to be coached up on his eye discipline, as he showed poor consistency in 2013 and was burned for a lot of big plays. But his size, speed, natural athleticism and playmaking ability make him capable of developing into a shutdown outside cornerback in the NFL. For a team confident in its ability to coach defensive backs, he has all the raw tools to succeed. (20.) Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M Even though we have him ranked at No. 20, there's still a good chance that Manziel could go in the top five or top 10 overall picks, given the need at the QB position of the teams picking at the top of the draft. There are questions about his long-term durability and his on- and off-field decision making, but he has special playmaking and improvisational ability and showed very good improvement in his arm strength and ball placement consistency this season. (21.) Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame Nix struggled in 2013 at times, and wasn't nearly as dominant as he was during the 2012 season. But at 6-2, 331 pounds, he is a massive, space-eating nose tackle, and he possesses very good first-step quickness for his size to go with good snap anticipation. You don't find many guys his size who can move the way he does. (22.) Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State Cooks is undersized, but he has great speed (he ran the fastest 40 time among combine WRs at 4.33 seconds) and his acceleration up the field right after the catch is outstanding. He also is an excellent route runner and has very good ball skills. (23.) Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA Barr has good versatility and is a very good athlete with good speed. I'm not as high on him as some people I've talked to around the league, who view him as a potential early first-round pick; I just haven't seen the explosiveness I had expected to see on tape based on his production. (24.) Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri Ealy has the versatility to fit at different spots along the defensive line, and possesses very good first-step quickness and is an active run defender with a good motor. (25.) Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU Beckham is competing with Cooks to be the fourth receiver prospect taken in this draft. He is a dynamic athlete with good size and playmaking ability. (26.) Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech There were two question marks for Fuller heading into the postseason process: speed and durability. Then he went out and ran a 4.49 40-yard dash at the combine, and from what I heard, came away from team medical checks without any issues. He has good size, long arms and is an explosive athlete. (27.) Dee Ford, DE, Auburn Ford's greatest strength is his ability to apply pressure to opposing QBs as a speed rusher, due to his explosive "get-off" burst and violent hands to keep blockers off his body. He also has very good closing burst and is relentless in pursuit. He's a high-energy run defender with good range, but because he's undersized he can struggle to set the edge versus offensive tackles. (28.) Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State Shazier is at his best playing in space, and is a big-time playmaker at the linebacker position. He confirmed the excellent athleticism we see from him on tape with his combine performance. (29.) Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State Jernigan is several spots lower than Pittsburgh's Aaron Donald here because he simply isn't as fast or smooth as him, or as good a finisher, and he lacks ideal height and bulk. But he still brings a lot of value as a 3-technique defensive tackle, as he is very strong versus the run with good (but not elite) first-step quickness, and good awareness and motor. (30.) Jason Verrett, CB, TCU Verrett is undersized, but he plays so big that I don't think it should be viewed as too much of a concern. He has excellent speed, quickness and ball skills, and he makes a lot of big plays. He sticks to receivers in man-to-man coverage. (31.) Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia Moses has very good size and length for the tackle position. He looked a lot more comfortable playing at left tackle in 2013 than he did at right tackle earlier in his career. He could be a late-first-round pick. (32.) Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame I actually think Tuitt might be best suited for the defensive tackle position, but he could also fit as a 5-technique defensive end. That versatility, along with his very good athleticism for his size, should allow him to succeed in the NFL. He does need to improve his hand placement and leverage. I actually like this ranking alot.
