http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=594969&page=10#entry16606866 Word I'm getting around the league on this today, - McCain released the story as a favor to the Texans in trade for other insider info he's received in the past. ( This is how "insiders" around the league are really "information brokers", on the premise that nothing is free and the media, by extension, becomes part of the ruse, deception, dog and pony show. Information is not "free", you are expected to help the franchise during this time of year to push one story or another to push one agenda or another. This is the one time of year that "lying" is acceptable from organization to organization and not taken personally during the NFL season. it's this kind of back room type dealing that gets journalists close enough to teams to get access to do a book, which can be far more lucrative overall i.e. Jeff Pearlman and his Cowboys book. ) - The purpose was to try to entice Arthur Blank ( who is apparently infatuated with Jadeveon Clowney) and Atlanta to trade up to No#1 overall to leapfrog ( Dimitrioff has no problems pulling the trigger on draft day to move up) St Louis, whom is apparently trying to shop it's overall No#2 pick to other teams wanting Jadeveon Clowney. Offensive line is seen as deep enough this year in the draft for Atlanta to try to grab O line help in the 2nd round. - The premise being Atlanta taking Clowney at No#1 would force St Louis to go to it's default, which is Greg Robinson at No#2, giving Houston a chance at one of the top 3 QBs at No#6 overall if Sammy Watkins goes off the board, pick up assets or still have the option to trade down again for more assets if Sammy Watkins is still on the board. Teams that covet Watkins the way the average FBG would covet Kate Beckinsale eating ice cream off their chests - Colts, 49ers, Giants. Premise Breakdown 1) Atlanta - Clowney ( Trade No#6 overall plus other assets to Houston) 2) St Louis - Greg Robinson ( Great prospect but a compromise pick for Fisher) 3) Jacksonville - Manziel/Bridgewater 4) Cleveland - Watkins/Manziel ( still in mix for possible Kaepernick deal) 5) Oakland - Carr/Bridgewater/Bortles 6) Houston - Bortles or another QB1 ( keep or slight trade down possibilities with Vikings, hard to see where Bucs hold Glennon in future esteem or not at this point) or Watkins ( trade down opportunity for more assets) 49ers need a true No#1 WR and have plenty of ammo in draft choices for trade. Can package No#30 overall plus other assets. Houston would have option to reach a little for a QB1 prospect before Round 2. This would almost ensure them Garrapolo if he's the target. Colts, Ryan Grigson is GMINO ( GM In Name Only), never count out Irsay to overpay again to reach up to No#6. Can package No#26 overall with other assets, Houston would have option to reach a little for a QB1 prospect before Round 2. This would almost ensure them Garrapolo if he's the target. Giants need offensive line help, even a new QB1, but Coughlin loves his WRs, loves loves loves them. Can package No#12 overall with other assets. - Word out on the trade, info not coming out of NE, that Patriots wanted a 3rd rounder that would turn to a 2nd rounder based on Mallett's number of starts/production benchmarks with Houston. Along with a handshake agreement not to pursue Julian Edelman. Houston, in exchange, offered two 4ths, one completely conditional on playing benchmarks, and no promise at all regarding Edelman. - Mallett would be seen as bridge QB1 with good upside and would have to take a team friendly extension, knows O'Brien and system. If trade doesn't work, still works as bait for Atlanta. New England plays along because it profiles Mallett for other potential trade opportunities. Possible win/win if Houston makes the trade and win/win if Houston doesn't. ***Take it for what you want***
No disrespect to the poster, you're just posting what this guy wrote, but it's hard to take too seriously the thought that this guy spoke with anybody, considering that the Colts very publicly traded this pick away in the middle of last season to the Browns for Trent Richardson. Unless something has changed radically, I have a hard time seeing how the Colts are going to trade a pick belonging to the Browns either as part of a package or by itself.
I had nothing to do with any of what was written I am just re posting for thoughts and reaction What you pointed out is a huge discrepancy though
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Wow man, thanks! if Atl is all about clowney, that really does represent our best chance to trade out of the #1 pick (and i think we should do everything we can to trade back). We know how aggressive Atl can be on draft night. A lot of GMs would baulk at the risk, but not Dimitriof. The question is, are they convinced that Houston will take him #1. That's the only incentive for them to deal with us. That, and or if St. Louis' asking price is more than ours to trade back. We've got to go all out and convince the world we are drafting Clowney ...even if we aren't. Hear that all you Teddy fans?
Well he's by far the only prospect in this draft worth the overall first pick so he always represented the Texans best chance at trading the first pick. However, I'm not sold that there will be a good enough offer on the table for it, so the Texans probably just draft Clowney themselves.
And the Texans shouldn't be greedy and expect an RG3 type trade. It would be great if they could get a 1st round pick in next year's draft but a 2nd and 3rd round pick in this year's draft would be great as well. And Teddy, Johnny, and Blake will be sitting there at pick #6 so they can draft one of them if they want one of them.
This...the Texans get minimal value for trading the pick to Atlanta...unless its something along the lines of a RG3 deal...(like 3 first rounders in the future). St. Louis has much more control. As more and more "news" comes out, the Texans seemingly are leaning towards Clowney either a trade bait or just being the #1 pick. Reports are consistent with the fact that it seems the Texans brass feel comfortable drafting a QB with latter picks; heck even seems that Schaub might be that stop gap QB until next years draft class. The Texans are getting zero value trading the #1 overall, unless its a massive offer. Atlanta would have to be willing to risk a 3 year future in hopes to get Clowney, and I just dont see it.
Keep the pick, draft player best player available. If that's not a QB, try to catch one in the 2nd or 3rd and develop then.
The Texans should draft Clowney. That guy is the best prospect in years. Him and Watt. That's just insane.
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