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The Texans #1 Draft Pick Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Brando2101, Feb 7, 2014.

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What should the Texans do with the #1 Pick?

  1. Trade it Away

    14.5%
  2. Draft Blake Bortles, QB, UCF

    1.2%
  3. Draft Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M

    0.6%
  4. Draft Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville

    27.5%
  5. Draft Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina

    30.1%
  6. Draft Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn

    1.0%
  7. Draft Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M

    25.1%
  1. Remii

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    I did because those two dudes don't know where the end zone is... They catch the ball and get tackled... Manning through over 70% of his passes behind the line of scrimmage and 10 yards and under. He has receiving options that know how to catch the ball and make plays and get that YAC.

    And Hopkins was a reach pick anyway. He wasn't even the best receiver on his team in college and that's why he has a hard time creating separation and beating single coverage.
     
  2. Remii

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    Correction. Manning threw over 70% of his passes behind the line of scrimmage and 10 yards and under.
     
  3. Commodore

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>What should the <a class="hashtag" action="hash" title="#Texans">#Texans</a> do with the first overall pick?@<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">gregcosell</a> weighs in.WATCH: <a href="http://t.co/WOv3G80qDH" title="http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/NFL-analyst-talks-Schaub-draft/f289307e-d187-42ed-a327-796ac2be25e2">bit.ly/Ndc5jt</a> <a href="http://t.co/6MGueGdxTp" title="http://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/439525252125564928/photo/1">pic.twitter.com/6MGueGdxTp</a></p>&mdash; Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans) <a href="https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/439525252125564928" data-datetime="2014-02-28T22:19:20+00:00">February 28, 2014</a></blockquote>
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  4. J.R.

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    Should you take a QB #1 in ideal world? Probably not. But if BO'B feels there is someone he can build with to become that guy(a very efficient player who can run his offense week after week), I would understand why he'd take a QB at one.

    If there was an Andrew Luck, yes, you take the guy. But there's not. Do you feel good about a guy that you'll take, because when you take him number one and hand in the card, he's your QB.

    Most NFL ready? Function of a lot of things. If you have a really good run game and strong defense, you can play like a QB like Bridgewater. Wilson was a function of a team that had a great run game and dominant defense. If you can generate offense without your QB having to be the focal point, Bridgewater is probably most ready. Bortles is a far more talented player as you look down the road, given his size, the way he throws it, his movement but I don't think he's ready to play week one. That's the issue you face.

    Manziel? He needs to play structured, efficient football. If the first thing you say about a QB as to the reason you think he can be pro QB is because he's great at extending plays, that's not the first thing that should be on your checklist. You have to find out whether you believe in his DNA he's a freelancer/gambler. If you believe he is, he'll have a hard time being a top NFL QB. You can't play that way.

    Clowney? He's an extremely talented kid. Great athleticism, explosion to him, great closing speed. Concern is compete level. Compete level is often in a guy's DNA. If he's not playing hard, you don't need to find out why. He's not playing hard. No reason to be given as a justification for that. Can he be special at times? No question. 4th Q in a tight ball game, can you count on Clowney?

    Who do you love in the top ten? I don't do boards. I'm just projecting guys but I really like K-Mack. He's a plug and play player. Mosley from Alabama I think will be a plug and play player. I love Sammy Watkins. He's the best wideout to come out since A.J. Green and Julio Jones. You have to remember NFL coaches have not got involved in the process yet. All these mocks don't mean anything. They're just noise. The night before the draft (last year), I was at an event, there were probably 20 agents and every agent to a man told me Geno Smith would be a top ten pick. These mocks, I don't know what they mean. They're fun, we love to talk about it but I don't think you can say this is the way it's gonna play out.

    O'Brien? Bill has a great feel for the QB position, putting an offense together, the pass game, route concepts to get people open, and think he wants a QB who will run his offense efficiently. That's what he'll be looking for.
     
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  5. Remii

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    Bortles is the far more talented player.... If that's the case he's the one you draft. And I think he could be ready to play week one if needed.
     
  6. Two Sandwiches

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    You sure you didn't mistype Bortles instead of Brdigewater?

    By all accounts, Bortles needs more time than anyone.
     
  7. The Real Shady

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    Would you draft Vick over Peyton? Vick is way more talented of a player. If the mental side of QB play wasn't such a huge factor I would agree with you here.
     
  8. ivenovember

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    I think Vick's biggest downfalls were injuries and lack of work ethic.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    That's a flawed argument because Bridgewater doesn't have the size or skillset of Peyton. Also, both are considered smart QB's though Bridgewater might be slightly smarter, however he doesn't have the physical tools that Bortles has and so it's a wash at best.
     
  10. tmacfor35

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    Saying they are a wash is a bit extreme. Teddy's arm might actually be stronger than Bortles. His mechanics can be a bit robotic, but they are consistent alone in the pocket and under pressure. Bridgewater is a multiple read guy as well compared to Bortles.

    Ability to read a defense-Bridgewater
    Make throws under pressure-Bridgewater
    Stronger arm-Bridgewater
    Mobility-Bridgewater
    Size-Bortles

    Saying it is a wash is extreme.

    Bortles was a 4th to 5th round prospect at one point last season. I am still confused on how he has jumped up.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    What you said is pretty solid only I don't think that Bridgewater has a stronger arm, but it could be about even, mobility is a wash because while Bridgewater probably* (hard to know because he skipped his 40) has faster top end speed, his pocket mobility isn't any better and might not even be as good if his 3 cone score is to be believed. I also think size is a pretty big issue, because what does anything else matter if they can't take the punishment of the NFL?

    I probably give the nod to Bridgewater as the better QB, but it's close. In fact, none of these QB's are all that much better than any other top 7 or so QB's.
     
  12. Raven

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    Because of his height and frame. He can see the field and take the hits. I'm not saying those things don't apply to Teddy. I won't get drawn into the debate about who's better. I'm just laying out why his stock is rising.

    My hunch is that Manziel has the highest (and lowest) ceiling. My hunch is that Clowney has the highest and lowest ceiling. If you are a gambler, you select one of those two guys. If you want a safer selection, you go with Bridgewater or Bortles. One threw, the other did not. Yeah, that counts for something.
     
  13. Voice of Aus

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    And dogs...

    (Phili fan)
     
  14. Remii

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    Cosell is the one who said it... I just happen to agree with him.
     
  15. tmacfor35

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    Bortles was pretty meh in the throwing department.

    Clowney has to be the favorite at this point. He really is the only player in this draft with value at the number one spot.

    Bridgewater is not going to disappoint though.
     
  16. Remii

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    **Chicago Bears wide receiver Brandon Marshall, a former UCF star, was at the Fiesta Bowl on Wednesday night, and he said Bortles is more than ready for the NFL. In fact, Marshall says Bortles is a better prospect than Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater or Texas A&M's Johnny Manziel.**

    "Blake's the No. 1 quarterback coming out and he'll be a star in the league," Marshall says. "His work ethic, just from being at UCF under coach (George) O'Leary, is unmatched compared to any other program."

    Everyone has an opinion. Some opinions just get hyped more than others.



     
  17. tmacfor35

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    Brandon Marshall? You mean the guy who beats women. Pass. He may be a good athlete but he is a dumbassssss
     
  18. Remii

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    I didn't post his opinions on relationships... Just an opinion of a guy who actually works with NFL quarterbacks and knows how O'Leary works his quarterbacks.

    Point is everyone has an opinion. And no one will know what any of these teams will do until draft day.
     
  19. tmacfor35

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    True, and Marshall has had the luxury of playing with Cutler, Moore, and Chad Henne. I don't think he knows what a good quarterback is.
     
  20. Remii

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    Well going by your train of thought... No one should listen to what Trent Dilfer says when he evaluates quarterbacks because he suxked when he played.
     

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