If he ends up showing that he's a better QB than he has shown thus far then sure, but there are at least 7 players who would obviously be a better pick. Don't compare Bridgewater to Manning or Brady, it's laughable. Bridgewater has a LOT more Alex Smith in him than he does anyone like Manning, Brady, or Rodgers.
There are only two players that would be better picks Robinson and Mack Actually Bobby, TMac is right Also Alex Smith wished he had Bridgewater's accuracy and football iq Bridgewater is very similar to the Brady's and Manning's of the world
LOL if Bridgewater was similar at all to the Brady's and Peyton Manning's of the world there would be no question whatsoever who the top pick should be, he's not though. Clowney, Mack, Donald, Mathews, Robinson, Watkins, and Evans are all better prospects than Bridgewater and it's not really even debatable.
https://twitter.com/MadDogRadio Phil Simms has lost his mind Said that Geno Smith would be the number 1 qb in this class
Brady was a 6th rounder... Manning was fighting Leaf for the top spot, until Leaf sabotaged his own pick a lot reports were saying that Leaf was the favorite
Manning wasn't fighting Leaf for the top spot at all, he had it in the bag all along, but people wanted to invent a second QB to create a fake controversy. There was never even a second that the Colts were even considering Leaf. If Bridgewater was that kind of QB, especially in this draft that doesn't have any awesome QB's in it, there would be no question at all who was going to be the top pick. In no way is he anywhere near the prospect Manning was and to suggest otherwise is delusional at best.
That may be true but some believe having a "B" quarterback helps a team more than having an "A" player at another position.
Casserly: Clowney better than Mario Spoiler <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Former Texans GM <a href="https://twitter.com/CharleyCasserly">@CharleyCasserly</a>: Clowney is better than Mario Williams <a href="http://t.co/dizunxZbuA">http://t.co/dizunxZbuA</a></p>— NFL: AroundTheLeague (@NFL_ATL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_ATL/statuses/438719300849774592">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> The Houston Texans' potentially dynamic pass-rushing tag team of J.J. Watt and Mario Williams lasted five games into the 2011 season before the latter suffered an injury and ultimately fled to Buffalo via free agency in 2012. NFL Media analyst Charley Casserly opined this week that former South Carolina defensive end Jadeveon Clowney is a better player than Williams was entering the league. It's noteworthy coming from Casserly because the former Texans general manager was widely panned for bypassing the more ballyhooed Reggie Bush and Vince Young to select Williams No. 1 overall in the 2006 NFL Draft. "If you're convinced Clowney is the best player in the draft and you're not convinced there is a quarterback you are dead-set on, then take Clowney," Casserly told NFL Media reporter Judy Battista. "At least you'll have a 10-year player. There will be another Andrew Luck in 30 years, maybe. So you say, is this guy RGIII? Are these quarterbacks Matt Ryan? That's probably a better discussion. Would you take Matt Ryan or Clowney?" Battista reports, via a person familiar with the team's thinking, that the Texans walked away from the NFL Scouting Combine with the knowledge that they now have options at the top of the draft. They aren't limited to Clowney or a quarterback and will entertain the notion of trading down. If they take a pass on a "once-in-a-lifetime talent" in Clowney, the decision could haunt the franchise for a decade or more. Cosell: Spoiler <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: Not a good class of QBs overall.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438741118524854272">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: Watched how ball comes out of a QBs hand. Completions and catching issues irrelevant to me and NFL people.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438741373840539648">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: A lot to like about Bridgewater. Understands fronts/coverages. Very comfortable. Only concern is size/durability</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438741578266705920">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: Bridgewater not a "wow" thrower.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438741777164795904">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: QB Logan Thomas 6-6, 250+, ran well, "head and shoulders above everyone who worked out." Ball flies out of hand.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438742046090985474">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: Bortles a work in progress, big kid and those size dimensions matter and we've gotten away from that.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438742371287977984">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: What are you hanging hat on with Manziel? Makes plays out of structure. Do you want to build around that?</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438744341826523136">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: I watch attributes, traits, characteristics. Creates a template/profile. Shows no matter the competition level.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438744957688774656">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: Short bytes hurt analysis as news. Boldest part of what you say is put out there. Not bold, based on the tape.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438745320093392896">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell">@gregcosell</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/Midday180">@Midday180</a>: Jaws knew Manziel opinion would play like that. But we don't mean it to be that, it's just watching the tape.</p>— Paul Kuharsky (@PaulKuharskyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulKuharskyNFL/statuses/438745607642312705">February 26, 2014</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> Report: Browns enamored with Carr, not Manziel Spoiler "The one thing about the combine is, you get there, you're around all your contacts, a lot of different NFL people," {Daniel} Jeremiah told "The Dan Patrick Show" on Wednesday. "And it had been so out there that the Browns loved Manziel under the previous regime, and I talked to enough people that firmly believe that that was a total smokescreen." Said Jeremiah: "Their guy is (Fresno State quarterback) Derek Carr and they're going to take a different player with the fourth pick and they want to take Derek Carr with their second one (at No. 26). ... I heard that from several different places." FWIW: Spoiler Depending on whom you ask, Johnny Manziel is either a top-five lock or destined for a draft-day fall. Based on what I’ve heard, I’m a part of the latter. I’ve repeatedly heard that the Jaguars and Raiders have little to no interest in Johnny Manziel, and the Browns interest isn’t nearly what it was when Mike Lombardi was in charge. Bill O’Brien wouldn’t have taken the job in Houston unless he had full control over his quarterback, so I’d personally be very surprised if he fit there, but haven’t heard either way from Houston. -Three teams fit for Manziel in the first round: the Cleveland Browns (though, in my most recent Mock Draft, I had them waiting until their second first-rounder), the Minnesota Vikings (though they aren’t pressed to find their franchise quarterback with Norv Turner in the mix) and the Dallas Cowboys. Don’t rule out Dallas grabbing Manziel if he starts to slip. -Also, if the Jaguars wanted to sell tickets with their first pick (they won’t, and don’t need to compared to other teams in the NFL), they would’ve signed Tim Tebow the last few years. Shahid Khan wants to win for the long-term, not sell tickets tomorrow. -Teddy Bridgewater didn’t perform well in multiple interviews with teams during the combine, and drew some comparisons to Geno Smith from last year. While I’m still confident he’ll be a top-five pick as of now, rumors are he’s coaching by agents and the people around him aren’t ideal. The Geno Smith comparison certainly scares me after how far Geno fell last year. Still, the Jaguars, Browns and Raiders all are strong fits for Bridgewater. A week after "falling in lust" with Manziel, Texans now "falling in lust" with Clowney? Spoiler Last week: League sources increasingly believe the Houston Texans will take Manziel with the first pick. The organization has said very little publicly, but privately, the belief is that Houston has been quietly falling in lust with him. This week: You weren't the only one blown away by Jadeveon Clowney's hyperdrive 40-time. The Houston Texans were as well. A number of NFL team sources say the Texans are now favoring taking Clowney with the first pick in the draft. This information comes with a caveat—at this time of the year everyone lies about everything. It's always difficult to decipher what is true and what's a smokescreen around draft time. However, an official inside the Texans organization told me that Clowney's speed, despite being so physically imposing, was one of the more stunning things he'd seen in a long time. "We've never really seen anything like Clowney. There's the chance he could redefine the position the way Reggie White or Bruce Smith did." Smokescreen? Maybe. Probably. Yet around the league, the view is that the Texans are starting to slowly fall in lust with Clowney. Clowney's official 4.53 time makes him faster than every starting quarterback in the NFL except Robert Griffin III, and since RGIII is coming off knee surgery, Clowney may be quicker than him as well. What is also helping Clowney is that he came off well during his interviews with teams, a number of NFL team officials told me. I'm not sure exactly what he said, but the clubs I spoke to seemed to have addressed concerns about his attitude and work ethic. At least for now they are. What I'm told is the Texans feel is that if they do draft Clowney, once he got into the Texans locker room and was around linemate J.J. Watt—one of the hardest working players in the NFL—Clowney would respond well. As one Texan official said: No one gets around Watt and slacks. Yes, Clowney blew everyone away. He shocked the NFL. Especially the team at the top of the draft that is leaning toward taking him. For now.
Only revisionist historians say that lol The only thing separating Bridgewater from manning as prospects is 3 inches, 30 lbs and Manning had a stronger arm...
Agreed, only revisionist historians talk about Leaf as if he was actually considered as good as Manning. There was one consensus best QB that year, Manning. The only things separating Bridgewater from Peyton Manning is talent, football IQ, passing ability, size, durability, QB instincts, throwing mechanics....
If the Texans draft Clowney based on his 40 time, then we have the wrong people in charge (already question Smith's drafting ability). If they draft him based on what they see on the field, fine. Combine should only be relavent, in Clowney's case, in regards to the interview process.
Football IQ is a wash, Bridgewater is a borderline savant Bridgewater was arguable more accurate and had better anticipation on his short to intermediate throws coming out Bridgewater had better instincts in the pocket coming out and a great thrower on the run Besides Bridgewater's throwing motion and lack of lower body mechanics on his throws, he has great feet and fluid follow through
They wouldn't draft him BASED on his 40 time, they'd draft him because he's by far the best prospect in the draft and one of the "once in a generation" type of defensive players. A reputation he helped solidify at the combine with his amazing 40 time.
It was always gonna be Teddy or Clowney. I'm fine with either. We better get our QB in the second. We'll need a vet too.
If we get Clowney, I don't want to spend a 2nd on qb. I don't think there will be much difference in 2nd or 3rd round QB. Would rather fill another position with best player available at one of those positions.
Nope. Not in the least. Teddy is a smart kid, but he's not on that level. That's an argument that will get you laughed at. What you mean to say is that he is more mobile, he doesn't have better instincts in the pocket. He's decent, but you aren't trying to compare him to decent, you are trying to compare him to Peyton, which is laughable. I guess you could say that, there were one or two really, really stupid people who might have thought that Leaf was better, but those aren't people who matter. There WAS a consensus among intelligent people who knew what they were talking about.
I would burn a second round pick on Jimmy Garoppolo... I don't believe there's much drop off if any between him and Teddy...
