I'm re-watching the Fiesta Bowl game from this year (Baylor-UCF). Bortles is not that impressive. He's just average. His stats are hugely inflated by the YAC factor. His offense that surrounds him was very underrated. in my opinion. That's what I see out of him. In this game, so far, he's shown good ability to run in open space. He's made a couple good passes, and that's it. I've seen three (at least) big mistakes in throwing into coverage. I've seen him throw totally behind his guys twice. I've seen him overthrow a deep man who was covered over the top (resulting in an INT). I've seen him throw off his back foot multiple times. Panic in the pocket. He's just got no polish, whatsoever. Even the announcers are pointing out his flaws. Not to mention the fact that the guy doesn't come across as the smartest in interviews. He's honestly, probably last in the smarts department when talking about the top 3 qbs. He just reminds me of Jake Locker. A big body guy, with a little bit of running ability that was built off hype. Only difference is Locker had sustained hype. I think his ceiling is the Matt Schaub (pre-meltdown) range of quarterbacks. Nothing I'd want with number one overall. I think if you take a quarterback, it's gotta either be Bridgewater or Manziel. Bridgewater for the polish/readiness factor. Bridgewater for the Aaron Rodgers-type potential (which, despite what people keep telling themselves, is clearly there). Manziel for the swing for the fences aspect. As has been said before, Manziel is that boom or bust pick. The boom could be franchise altering. It would be huge. No matter what, I won't hate on who we draft (will be disappointed with Bortles, though, and would gladly eat crow a year from now).
not sure how they are leaning towards Bortles- the film say it all.. Teddy is the more complete player- all this BS going around is a non factor... Just watch the film.. Teddy has only lost 2 games in his college career and only got better. His the most accurate of the 3 (he was just as good or even better when he got blitz) so stupid how some media people state Bridgewater is not being considered by the Texans ..
That sounds like something the Seahawks would do. Understand there is no surefire franchise QB, draft for upside, bring in a guy like Flynn, draft a guy like Wilson...
If you watch each player's final game from this past year, it is not comparable. It's ridiculous. Teddy's passes, for the most part are money. The guy is so accurate. His ball comes out with zip, more so than Bortles (here come the haters), usually with a pretty tight spiral, and it's dead on. He doesn't put the ball in a bad spot for his receivers. He steps up into the pocket when facing pressure, and will deliver a great throw when he knows he's going to take a hit. I've seen Bortles do this, but not nearly as often, nor as effectively. In each of their bowl games, each quarterback threw a long pass to a receiver with coverage over top around the goal line. Bortles overthrows his man, resulting in an INT, inside the 5, I believe. Teddy purposely underthrows his man in the endzone, resulting in a touchdown. Watch the footwork between the two of them. The mechanics. It's night and day. Yes, I know I'm not a scout (because that's what Teddy haters will come in here with), but I just don't see it. I'm with Old Man Rock here. I've said it before, and I'll say it again....There's a good chance Teddy is a top 3-5 quarterback in the league 5 years from now. If you want a good shot at a franchise quarterback in this draft, you take him. Otherwise, if you're convinced you'll do fine sticking with who you've got for a potential of 3 years plus (because deep down, we all know this team won't be picking near the top again in the near future), you trade back. I don't see any other choice. Not sold on Clowney at one, either.
This draft is SO deep guys, your team would be best fit to trade the pick for a 1st and maybe an additional 2nd rounder. Hell, I would do a 1st, 3rd, 5th. Redskins fans are eyeing SEVERAL OL, WRs, QBs that are first round quality but will fall to rounds 2 and 3 because of specific team needs and extreme depth at these positions in the draft. Only player WORTH drafting with the #1 pick is Clowney and that is premature because amazing combine results don't always translate to the field. There will be a team to spill their wallet full of draft picks to pay for that #1 pick you behold.
Eddie, Bortles was atrocious in the first half, looked much better in the second half. I would be majorly disappointed if the Texans drafted him, I just don't believe he is the QB of the future.
If we draft Clowney at #1, it would be a major disappointment, even though he is going to be a great player but out #1 goal should be drafting a QB, take either Bridgwater or Manziel
I agree but here is my thing... Bridgewater/Manziel is not worth a #1 overall. The only player deserving to go #1 is Clowney. So if Houston is set on drafting a QB, then you give the pick to someone that wants/needs Clowney and pick up an extra pick in the draft. Give St. Louis a call, if they want Clowney then you make a deal with them to obtain the #2 pick (Teddy Bridge) and also pickup a 6th or 7th. However it's still early. What if Jacksonville does something like make a trade for Kirk Cousins before the draft and then they'll be salivating over the idea of Clowney at #1 and then you could trade with them as well.
I think if we draft ANY QB from this class #1, it will be a disaster. I could name at least 4 guys on the defensive side of the ball better than ANY QB in this class and at least 2 O linemen as well. Picking a QB would be every bit as much a reach as the Titans picking Jake Locker with the 8th pick in the draft or the Jags picking Blaine Gabbert 10th in the draft and it would probably work out just as well for the Texans.
He has just an average arm and a "puncher style" release which probably contributes to his occasionally inconsistent accuracy in intermediate and deep routes. On top of that he has a small frame and doesn't make up for it with athleticism and arm strength like others. Also, on top of that, his release is often somewhat sidearm, which makes his lack of prototypical height even more of a potential issue than QB's who throw more over the top. Another factor is that he is a soft spoken individual, so it raises questions as to his leadership ability when he's not the big fish at the tiny school anymore, his interview was described as "aloof" which might not be what you want in a QB. TL/DR version: He is lacking in the physical side of things.
1. His arm is stronger than Bortles 2. His release is a non issue, many people have already said that 3. Soft spoken does not equate to leadership, bullocks in all honesty That "aloof" stuff is hogwash McShay got on ESPN the other night and said teams felt that Bridgewater was the best qb in the interviews, really excelled on the whiteboard as well Stop lying to push an agenda
His arm isn't stronger than Bortles but that's not the end all be all to being a great quarterback in the NFL... I think Johnny, Teddy, and Blake are not quarterbacks like Gabbert, Ponder, and Locker so if O'Brien WANTS Teddy or Blake (I don't think Johnny is his type) then let him have the quarterback he wants since he's the guy that actually develops quarterbacks.
Based on what? I disagree, and so does he because it's one of the things he's been working on Maybe, maybe not. It could be viewed as a potential red flag by teams though. Why? Because you don't agree based on what you saw in the interviews? Well then that just shows conflicting reports. None of that was a lie and I don't have an agenda.
Um game film can show you that there is no difference between Bortles and Bridgewater's arm, Bridgewater has more velocity on his short to intermediate throws Scouts have said his release is a none issue, Bridgewater views as something he can improve on Could? Should? Would????? Who views it as a red flag???? I'd rather believe McShay than somthing off of bleacherreport
We'll see come pro days If he shows of a cannon for an arm, McNair would be approaching Jerry Jones tomfoolery to pass him up
I don't know if you have an agenda or not, but TB and JM are head and shoulders above Locker and Gabbert. Bortles probably falls into their category.
Peyton Manning has a weak arm, and lacks mobility. He is the best quarterback in the league because of his mental prowess. Brady fits in that category as well. Give me the guy who has it together mentally. Saying that, draft day will be Clowney vs Bridgewater. I'd be shocked if the Texans didn't take one or the other.
