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The T-Rob proposal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketfaithful, Mar 18, 2013.

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Who do you think would help the rockets most at the four spot? please read thread post first!!!

  1. DMO for his offensive arsenal

    51.7%
  2. T-Rob for his defensive intensity and rebounding

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  1. kuku

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    Skilled 7 footers with post moves do not grow on trees. They are a rare commodity in this league. I don't think you will not find another 7 footer, past or present, who possesses low post skills in his rookie year. Most of low post players crafted his skills AFTER he is in the league.

    Morey loves skilled PF's (just look at our recent drafts). When he missed out on Gasol trade, it must've haunted him. Aren't there a lot of uncanny similarities between DMo and Gasol? Same height, about the same weight and both are from Euro. Morey sees DMo as the young Gasol with better post moves.

    You can find many young TRob's but there is only one DMo's in this league.
     
  2. dreamshakin

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    I'd bathe have t rob starting just based off his rebounding. I am much more concerned with the Beverly situation. Even though he has great energy, he wildly inconsistent on offense. I am tired of his games of 0-5 field goals. I still don't know what mchale sees in him, I'd rather have AB in as backup at this point
     
  3. Baqui99

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    The whole D-Mo deal reminds me of Moneyball when Beane traded away Carlos Pena to force Hatteberg into the lineup.

    Short term, D-Mo is a step down from Patterson/Morris - but Morey's clearly not interested in fighting it out for the #8 playoff spot every year.
     
  4. HadToDoItCF

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    People here really believe that Trob has proven that he deserves to be a starter and log heavy minutes in this league? Open dunks are a 75% shot for him.
     
  5. kuku

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    Exactly!!!

    Bean traded Pena after Howe refused his request time and time again.

    Morey pulled the same stunt by trading not just PPat but Morris as well. McHale got no choice but to play DMo. Morey didn't have to trade neither PPat not Morris before the deadline. I strongly believe he couldve waited offseason and still make the same trade.

    Sactown isn't making the playoffs. TRob will not improve much with what is left of this season. If anything, Kings will win a couple more games and actually counter productive to their draft position.

    Same can be said about Morris. Morey will still able to trade Morris this offseason for a 2nd round pick. I have no doubt Suns will pull the trigger anytime. Morris twins will sell tickets and they've already used this gimmick for their promotional purpose. But with Morris on the roster, there is a chance McHale still won't play DMo. By trading both our PF's, this will force McHale's hand, like what Bean did to Howe.

    Remember after the trade, McHale sounded pissed during an interview? That was a taletell sign that he was pissed at Morey for forcing his hand.

    I believe McHale knows he is not part the future. What does he care about the most? His coaching record on his resume for next HC job. This is the biggest reason McHale doesn't like playing rookies. He will have more wins on his resume playing the veterans. He couldn't care less about 'developing' rookies, nor the confident of certain players (Lin). He is racking up wins on his resume anyway he can, even if he has to ride Harden like a Secretariat. Who can really blame him?!

    McHale never takes accountability during post game interviews. He will not set himself up for his future job interview. The team is too young...Youngest team in the league...Inconsistent...They came out without any energy...blah blah. They all translate to: Losses were not on me but on inexperience of his players.

    McHale and Adelman don't like how Morey operates. Coaches hate instability, high turnover rates and roster full of rookies. Morey is in it to win a championship and cares little for the record or his coaches. Remember one pre-draft when he wanted to trade half of his roster for Rubio? He believed Rubio will bring a championship. He told Adelman that and Adelman fired back and said, “Are you trying to get me fired?”

    McHale’s offensive system is set this season and no rookie will make him implement post plays into playbook. It’s just too late for a bunch of rookies to learn. This explains why DMo is often camped at the corners.

    This is my take and everything is purely speculation!
     
  6. Da_Spark

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    Throwing most of our players in the rotation this season is already an experiment in itself. No NBA coach would suddenly include a rookie (Jones) who hasn't played much the whole season to the rotation in the middle of a playoff chase with 15 games left.

    Seriously guys, lets just stop the "Why isn't McHale playing Terrence Jones" posts because honestly, people would complain about the same thing if it was some other rookie he wasn't playing.

    The coaching staff basically live with these players. They know what they're doing. What makes people think that we know better than them when we hardly even see these players in person and during practices?
     
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    Doesn't matter if we play D-Mo or T-Rob. They're both quite raw. I'd go with the "give more minutes to the one who's performing better on the court during that certain game" approach here and depends on the matchups for particular teams as well.
     
  8. destined2win

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    I think for those guys who say that we do not need offensive 4 are out of their mind , as last year playoffs showed Harden can be stopped , we need someone who might be able to step up beside Harden and here i see D-Mo can be better than T-Rob he can take some load from Harden. I know inconsistency is issue , but we still have ~20 games left , hopefully he can adjust and become efficient .
    I just do not see rockets doing good in playoffs, if teams slow down Harden we do not have much firepower on the team.
     
  9. dudeimfromhtown

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    It's been pretty off for awhile
     
  10. Baqui99

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    Yep, McHale needs to shut the hell up. The whole reason he was brought in was because he was supposed to be more "moneyball friendly" and buy into Morey's plan. Adelman used to b**** about playing rookies all the time.
     
  11. Da_Spark

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    Again, we should focus on the bigger picture which is the future given that we're only on our first year of rebuilding. The main focus should be just to make the playoffs (which would be a bonus considering how young and inexperienced this team is) and gain experience and build chemistry.

    Having a brand new roster this young and on its first year together shouldn't even be making the playoffs. I mean, how many teams as inexperienced as this team have made the playoffs in the league's 67-year history? We should all be thankful that this team has massively overachieved and become successful this soon.

    Just take a look at the Hornets. That team is just as young, inexperienced, and as talented as we are player for player and yet, they're on pace to finish the season with the worst record in the West.
     
  12. HadToDoItCF

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    Somehow I entirely 100% doubt that was what was discussed in that job interview.

    Are people honestly surprised that any coach in the league will do whatever it takes to win that game that night? People act as though McHale is doing this because he needs to boost his stats and his ego has to be fed and his W/L is all that matters to him and a whole bunch of other nefarious bull ****...

    These people are COMPETITIVE. They COMPETE for a living. McHale's ego is going to be fine, there's a reason no one is talking about that account manager from company X who posts on ClutchFans... It's about winning, not for vanity's sake, but for competition's sake. NBA coaches live and die with each victory and defeat.

    Would you really want a coach who didn't care if they won each night, and just played guys because of the future? It would get ****ing old real quick to see Terrence Jones, Scott Machado, Royce White, Dmo, and Patrick Beverly out there on the court every night for extended minutes because you want to develop players for the future...
     
  13. HadToDoItCF

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    But our coaches suck ballzorz and the Hornets have a genius who would have our roster with 7 more wins easily, amirite? *sigh*
     
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    Church!!
     
  15. YaoMing#1

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    The one time Trob got extended minutes he played really well I don't really see a reason as to why he couldn't do it again. The guy knows how to play basketball. Bottom line is both dmo and Trob are rookies. I'm not gonna argue with ppl who think one guy is the better player than the other. The point is both our young and gonna mess up but the difference is Trob is consistent at one aspect of the game (rebounding) and pretty good at another (defense) while dmo is inconsistent at every aspect of the game. You can argue all you want but this is just facts.

    I honestly think Trob is the better player and has more potential. I know it's easy to get caught up in the 7ft with post moves hype but lets be honest the guy converts at about 40% on all shot attempts he's not some low post beast like some ppl argue on this board. I like dmo and I'm sure he will get better but every game the one thing that kills us is rebounding and I'm sorry but dmo sucks at that. There's stretchs of games were we can't get a rebound I save out life and its annoying.
     

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