The question is . . . . where will they go?? I doubt they go 3rd Party So the Republicans will have a civil war within the party Which IMO would be more of a class war Rich versus Poor Poor care more about values Rich care more about economy Trump IMO has demonstrated a unique position of looking like he cares about both but doesn't give a **** about either. Only his own pockets matter. HE is Tofu of Politics Rocket River
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-gop...s-support-9d84746a?mod=hp_opin_pos_4#cxrecs_s The GOP’s New Rising Electorate The party needs to find a way to hold Trump’s support among diverse working-class voters. By Patrick Ruffini Nov. 17, 2024 at 2:18 pm ET There is a new rising American electorate. This coalition is diverse and working-class. It’s out of step with the identity politics of the left, seeking a return to common sense and economic stability. For the first time, a Republican presidential campaign aimed squarely at winning over this electorate and it paid off, with the party’s first popular-vote lead in 20 years and its largest electoral margin since 1988. Donald Trump got a further double-digit swing in his direction among Latino voters, building on 2020’s shifts in such places as Miami and Texas’ Rio Grande Valley. He won a modern record Republican share of the black vote. Asian voters swung strongly his way, and exit polls suggest he won a majority of Native American voters. Mr. Trump won in large part because of his populist rainbow coalition. Exit polls point to scant gains among white voters and smaller movement among traditional GOP voting blocs such as seniors, married voters and those with college degrees. It was those on the edges of the economy hurt the most by inflation who moved toward Mr. Trump. The election was the bitter end of Barack Obama’s “Rising American Electorate.” In 2008 Mr. Obama won the youngest cohort in the electorate, a highly diverse group of 18- to-29-year-olds, by 34 points. Those same voters map closely onto today’s 30- to 44-year-olds, who went for Kamala Harris by only 3 points, according to the AP VoteCast survey. Among today’s 18- to 29-year-olds, Ms. Harris had only a 4-point edge—far less than the double-digit margins Democrats have counted on among the youngest voters in recent elections. For these young Americans, Mr. Trump’s first term was the only good economy in their adult lifetimes. Members of the new working-class coalition remember the Trump years as a time when they had money in their pockets—money that held its value. Touching every corner of society, inflation has inspired voters worldwide to repudiate incumbent parties, dramatized by Javier Milei’s youth-fueled razing of the establishment in Argentina and now by Mr. Trump’s return. Mr. Trump’s job is to restore the economic stability and prosperity that voters remember from his first term. If past performance is any indication, the administration will likely take an ecumenical approach, borrowing from different ideological currents—America First populism to supply-side growth through the renewal of the Trump tax cuts to Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy’s Department of Government Efficiency. For their part, Mr. Trump’s new coalition members embrace a politics of aspiration, not a leftward shift toward dependency on government. While traveling through the Rio Grande Valley researching my book on working-class realignment, I heard a hopeful message from Mr. Trump’s voters. Growing up, they were told by their parents to support the Democratic Party because it was the party of the poor. Their response: “We don’t have to be poor.” Thanks to the oil and gas industry—which the valley’s residents in my polling correctly associate with Republicans—poverty in the region is declining. Taking note of an exodus of working-class hard hats from the Democratic Party, White House aide Pat Buchanan wrote in a 1970 memo circulated to Richard Nixon that “it should be our focus to constantly speak to, to assure, to win, to aid, to promote the President’s natural constituency—which is now the working men and women of the country, the common man, the Roosevelt New Dealer.” In the current realignment, we find echoes of the rise of the 1970s blue-collar populist conservatism, culminating in the election of Ronald Reagan. As now, there were voices in the GOP urging then a return to the party’s old ways. With Mr. Trump no longer atop the ticket in 2028, there will be a temptation to try to return to the way things were before. That would be a mistake. Racial and class realignment is here to stay, and the Republican future lies with the new hard-hat coalition. Mr. Ruffini is a founding partner of Echelon Insights, a Republican polling firm, and author of “Party of the People: Inside the Multiracial Populist Coalition Remaking the GOP.”
Republicans haven't even taken over yet and despite their previous claims Republicans are already talking about cutting money for senior citizens. Health Care House Republican: ‘Hard decisions’ needed on Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare “We’re going to have to have some hard decisions. We got to bring the Democrats in to talk about Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare. There’s hundreds of billions of dollars to be saved, and we know how to do it, we just have to have the stomach to actually take those challenges on,” https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ecurity-medicaid-medicare-welfare-cuts-trump/ I wonder what they would do with that savings. Even As Billionaire Wealth Surges After Trump’s Election, New GOP Leader Aims To Give Them $2.7 Trillion Tax Break The results from November’s election are in and the clear winners are America’s 815 billionaires. They now hold a record-shattering $6.7 trillion of our national wealth, according to a new analysis of Forbes data by Americans for Tax Fairness (ATF). Just between the day before Election Day (Monday, November 4) to a week after the voting deadline (Tuesday, November 12), billionaire wealth jumped $276 billion, https://americansfortaxfairness.org...-gop-leader-aims-give-2-7-trillion-tax-break/
It's really disgusting when you think about it. The backbone of America, the blue collar workers, are treated like tools to oil their money making machines. Even if were all given a salary of a million a year, they would have to work 1,000 years to make a billion dollars. A thousand years to make what guys like Musk rake in monthly. Think about that if you believe those billionaires all being appointed to lead this country will make your lives better, your healthcare free or affordable, or your air and water less toxic. He and his billionaire friend in charge of NASA now have dollar signs popping around in their heads with all the money to be made flying the wealthy around on their rockets, supplemented with government funding. The oil barons, Chemical Corporations, and Railroads can't wait to cut more regs. Chemical spills, toxic waste, work accidents, environmental toxins don't concern guys who don't have to live and work near those areas. They don't care about you, your health, or your problems. That doesn't make them more money. You want help from FEMA or affordable insurance for flood or hurricanes? LOL, good luck. You want better public schools? Haha, yeah right. You need mental healthcare or better elderly care? Good luck with that. Social services doesn't make them money. You want vacation time like most other countries in the world provide their people? Hahaha, get back to work and pack sand somewhere else. You are replaceable.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...s-definitely-not-permanently-changed-the-gop/ 12 minutes ago Sununu says Trump has ‘definitely not’ permanently changed the GOP by Sarah Fortinsky 12/29/24 10:50 AM ET New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a moderate Republican, said on Sunday that he does not think President-elect Trump has permanently changed the GOP. “We've always been a spectrum in the party. We've had moderates, we've had fiscal conservatives and social moderates and social conservatives. It's a huge spectrum, and it's a big tent, and it will be, it will continue to be,” Sununu said on CNN’s “State of the Union,” in an interview conducted less than two weeks before he leaves office. Sununu said he does not imagine someone will take Trump’s place as leader of the GOP after his term is over. “Trump is Trump. There's no ‘Trump-lite.’ There's no ‘Trump 2.0’ coming up,” Sununu said. “I always say that Trump is who he is because he's built up himself in the American psyche for 40 years. I mean, really since the 80s.” Asked whether he thinks Trump has permanently changed the party, Sununu said, “Oh, no. Oh, definitely not.” He suggested that he does not think the party’s fundamental ideology has changed all that much. “I think there's a lot more of that hardcore regular conservatism already in there, frankly. That traditional conservatism is already in there,” Sununu said when asked whether he thinks the party will “bounce back” to “regular conservatism.” “He brings a different style to it, which I have a lot of issues with at times, to be sure, but fundamentally, on principle, they're still right there. The bigger DNA problem is with the Democrat party,” Sununu said. Sununu endorsed former UN ambassador Nikki Haley’s 2024 presidential primary bid before she suspended her campaign and he threw his support behind Trump. Asked about some of the criticism he had of Trump during the 2024 primary, Sununu said Trump was “not my first choice, and not my second or third or fourth choice within the primary process, but obviously he won the primary.” “I never take back a single thing I've ever said. I think, you know, in terms of moving the party forward, there were a lot of other great candidates that were out there. He won the primary, he won the nomination, and he won the vote handily, of the American people. He's got to come through, right? At this point, it's about delivering.”
I wonder if the right wing boomer @Os Trigonum plans on having the same energy for Jared as he did with Hunter? My guess is no cuz hes a disingenuous hack
This charismatic / popular Republican voted against the 78-yr old convicted felon Arnold Schwarzenegger Rips Into 'Unpatriotic' Donald Trump In Lengthy Post Endorsing Kamala Harris, adding just before the Trump 2.0 inaugural, the vengeful doldtard proceed to spread a lie that "Arnold was leaving the US" Arnold had to CALL OUT TRUMP's LIE
My Republican Mom went from "I'd vote for Hilary over that man" in 2015 to "Ashli Babbitt was the only one murdered on 1/6" in 2025 so it's been an awesome decade tbh.
That disgusting pig is a horrible choice for Defense Secretary. I feel sorry for any women serving with him as the chief advisor and policy maker for the military. They deserve better.
like whats the play here? is having an alcoholic with all that baggage as defense sec going to make the country stronger. pls explain putting severely unqualified people in positions of power to own the libs? is that it? man, that doesnt sound like a good plan for anyone.
Trump believes "the truth" and "the experts" who believe in it are biased against him. It's a pretty good plan for The Donald if his goal is to have nobody who will talk back to him. Also, weird there isn't a thread on Trump illegally firing a whole bunch of inspectors general. I guess independent oversight is passé. Any other president in history that did that would be getting DESTROYED, but I guess God-Emperor Trump isn't subject to oversight from the realm of mere mortals.
