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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. astros123

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    I'm well aware of this. @rocketsjudoka trump will play to these people and he's good at it. Trump can easily win in 24 if gas prices stay high. Average American is dumb as a rock
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    I think you put way too much stock in gas prices.

    Yes gas prices are high but as noted they were higher in 2022 but that couldn't lead to the Republicans taking the Senate and barely holding the House. In MN and MI gas prices were higher than they are now and the Democratic governors in both states not only won reelection but also got Democratic majorities in both houses.

    There are other issues like abortion that are benefitting Democrats even as high gas prices hurt the party in power.
     
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  3. Nook

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    I just want to know if he is still beating women and forcing them to have abortions - let's start there before we work our way up to Senator Royce White.
     
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    You can not compare 2022 midterm turnout to a presidential turnout when the full MAGA base will turn out. Its ridiculous to undermine Trump and the anger he brings with his base. Biden can not afford to even lose 10-15% of minority males or he'll lose the election. If you saw after the MAUI fires the Republican playbook was to run 30 second ads that, "Biden is funding UKR pensions but hes leaving your homes deserted." Even though that stuff is false people really get touched by that bs. Americans by nature have always been isolationists since the beginning of time.

    The 2024 election will the most important election of this country. If Biden loses we may well never have another free election again. The saudis/chinnese/RU will all be on the side of Trump. Dont underestimate the enemy.
     
  5. Rashmon

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    The state of the Republican party?
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    This sounds worse than actually watching the debate. I'll pass on anything coming out of the mouths of those two Trump loyalist scumbags and traitors.

     
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    Deb giving some posters a taste of their own medicine lol

    SMACKDOWN V RAW, BE THERE
     
  9. deb4rockets

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    A spoon full of sugar just doesn't cure those in a cult.
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes Trump could win and the economy including gas prices could hurt Biden quite a bit. If gas prices stay where they currently are
    Though I don’t think they will be as much a factor.

    Also in a presidential election the Democrats will get a high turnout also and we’ve seen in not just midterm and presidential elections Democrats get a high turnout in special elections. While the MAGA base is enthusiastic the Democratic vote also seems enthusiastic over the issue of abortion.

    What I don’t think Biden will do though is alter the current strategy in Ukraine to try to lower gas prices just to win the next election as you e suggested in the other thread. Biden will likely take other steps of gas prices are over $4 / gallon next year.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    MAGA is a cult, and they have already drunk the kool-aid.
     
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  12. Rashmon

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    The expanded video is warranted...
     
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    People in 2023 largely are not objective, they have access to a non-stop stream of social media that will support their positions, regardless of what they are. At the end of the day, people will seek out that which they believe proves their point or position instead of being open minded and objective and finding where ever the truth emerges.

    I used to think that there would be a bottle neck or an absolute "bottom", but there is not. We can look at the popularity of "Q" or election fraud claims - or the popularity in the Soviet Union of Stalin through the 1980's - even Maduro in Venezuela today.

    Ultimately, as long as it is economically feasible and supportable - you can convince a large enough group of people of anything with enough effort and financial effort.
     
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    WIth all due respect again you're just spewing the same lines that Ive shown you to be false. Bidens polling numbers at this are literally gas prices and its been mathmatically proven. Ive posted this already but Bidens approval rating has shown to track the price of gasoline pretty closesly. If you want to argue otherwise you can but its just against the evidence. Americans are dumb as **** and they measure the economy by the big flashy number they see every day.

    Again you're just completely underestimating Trump. Biden won by 55k votes in 2020. Ive never said said that we should throw UKR to the wolves. ive said repeately that only if RU is willing to agree to a reasonable peace deal which IMO they will. You and others keep arguing about this maximalist approach which will lead us straight to Trump.

    The 2024 election will the most important election this country has ever seen. It absolutely blows my mind away that you folks are willing to gamble all of it just so ukraine can maybe gain some more land in eastern Ukraine. Trumps entire line is going to show ppl how much we've spend in UKR and how much they're suffering and if you dont think that **** will land you have no clue whats coming.
     
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    Fox News tells Trump surrogates no ‘spin room’ access at first debate

    Fox News has informed Donald Trump’s campaign that surrogates for the former president will not be allowed access to the “spin room” following Wednesday night’s first Republican debate.

    The barring of Trump allies from Wednesday’s post-debate media scrum at the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee came one day after the 77-year-old former president confirmed that he would not participate in the event.

    Donald Trump Jr., had said Monday that he would be attending the showdown as a surrogate for his father. His fiancée, Kimberly Guilfoyle, was also expected to show up at the event and run media for the former president.

    The only exceptions will be made for surrogates who attend the debate as a guest of a media organization.


    https://nypost.com/2023/08/21/fox-n...re-no-longer-welcomed-at-first-debate-report/
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    The GOP is currently the mob, bought and paid for by Putin through the NRA - no honor, no integrity, would sell out their parents to line their own pockets.

    Lincoln would be ashamed.

    DD
     
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    I don't think they hit rock bottom until they lose the house, senate and Presidency and I am not sure this is feasible in this climate. It's too easy to say stop electing people like MTG but she obviously touches a button with her continuants and if that's who they want they will vote for her, but if the gop keeps losing ground in the elections they MIGHT change, you can already see some conservative republicans calling for a change but it's a small % and I think quite a large % are afraid to buck the system or they will be out of a job. Losing biggly is the elixir for the extremism IMO.........I say give them trump in the general election so they can have "there man" and then let the Amercian people decide who wants it more, I don't think you would see a landslide for Biden because to many republicans will vote straight ticket but I do think enough republicans have had enough and will not vote him back in and on Biden`s side, it may not be what everyone wants but it sure beats the hell out of the alternative and he`s done a pretty good job, not to mention people hate change, especially change that potentially create so many issues, it wont just be the mean tweets next time...........I do think the gop has lost a segment of republicans due to trump and I can only hope it's enough to tilt the vote to Biden
     
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    The clowns are now worried that they don't look serious...

     
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    Matty, you already look "unserious" by not passing any legislation, are you there just to send out tweets with boobert and mtg? You're a maga stooge, nothing more, nothing less
     
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    Biden’s polls have been all over the place with some outlier polls showing him losing g by double digits to Trump
    And some showing him winning by double digits. Frankly I don’t put too much stock in polls at this point.

    What I do put stock in is in elections and we’ve seen several recent elections including one this month go Democrats way even when it we rigged in the Republicans favor. What we see in several elections is that issues like abortion are driving women and others to the polls. We’ve also seen a continued pattern that independents and others largely reject MAGA when it comes to elections.

    This doesn’t mean that we should take 2024 for granted and certainly people should be active and involved. You seem to put stock in one factor and claim everyone else is wrong. If gas prices was such a decisive factor we shod be looking at Republican domination of Congress and a true red wave in the last election. Again that didn’t happen.

    That’s not speculation that is a fact.

    Also to add you did say several times in the other thread that Ukraine would cause Biden to lose in 2024 because of high gas prices and that Biden needed to do something about that. As myself and others have noted Biden can’t unilaterally force a peace plan. The only thing he can do unilaterally is to withdraw support of Ukraine.
     
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