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The state of the republican party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. deb4rockets

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    Well, now I see how Trump and the GOP liars fool people about socialism and healthcare. No, that doesn't make you a socialist country. Some of the richest countries in the world offer free healthcare, or much more affordable.

    There are many modern countries where people live and prosper without people dying or not being able to get regular care because they can't afford healthcare or prescriptions. In this country people get screwed for healthcare insurance, prescriptions, and medical care. Governments can afford it, especially in countries this rich.

    Here, those big business pharmaceutical companies and hospitals have politicians in their pockets. It's big business, and as hypocritical as ever when it comes to the healthcare business screwing the sick, the elderly, and the poor when they are sick or dying. Tax breaks for the wealthiest leads to screwing the less fortunate out of things most countries call humane.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    Well you should’ve read it all. To condense what Franchiseblade and many have reported.

    Trump claimed that he did turn over alll classified material and his lawyer signed a document attesting to that in June. An informant, possibly someone in Trump’s own family let the DOJ that he hadn’t. The FBI since Trump hadn’t complied with the previous subpoena obtained a warrant and searched Mar a Lago. They found possibly hundreds of still classified documents.
     
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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Hospitals and doctors are ethically bound to provide emergency health care no matter what the patient can pay. That doesn’t mean it’s free.

    They will still try to recover that money and if
    mot able too will pass on those costs to others. That is basically a public option done through the most inefficient ways. Or to put it another way if “socialism” is having people who can’t pay cost born by the rest of society then having a lot of uninsured people accessing health care was already socialism.
     
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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Trump didn't give it back. They requested it multiple times.

    They had already sent one or two agents and Trump didn't give them the documents.
     
  5. No Worries

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    The FBI is biases against Trump ... no doubt ... but it is more than that ... the FBI is biased against CRIMINALS doing CRIMES. There is an objective lesson somewhere in all of this.
     
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    Imagine having to emulate Donald Trump to boost your political career… Yeeesh.
     
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  7. T_Man

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    Man I don't know if you are very young or a new citizen... But here's a news flash for you...

    Healthcare has been JACKED UP every since Reagen let Kaiser-Permanente re-do the healthcare and now you have this mess we have today...

    This was not an Obama thing...

    T_Man
     
  8. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    You are describing a social democrat. Democratic socialism is not capitalist, it is a flavor of socialism. The means of production are owned collectively.
    Here is a decent enough primer on the difference between the two:
    Democratic Socialism vs Social Democracy | by Zach Herriges | Medium
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    "Democratic Socialism" is a pejorative to try to paint Democrats as Stalinists.
     
  10. raining threes

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    It's kinda hard to give something back when you're not on the property. He told his staff to give the IRS agents whatever they wanted. This raid was political from the IRS to the judge shopping for the warrant to the number of agents who participated in the raid. This was nothing more than the deep state flexing their muscles. Looking forward to the day all of this is burned to the ground.
     
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    10 % cause 90%of people's insurance rates to double.
     
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    Do you think Trump actually was there when the documents were originally handed over, or did he instruct his lawyer to hand them over and she made a mistake?
     
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    Yet people from all over the world come here for healthcare.

    I do agree with you Obamacare basically screwed the middle class, more than doubling their premiums.
     
  14. fchowd0311

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    Yo I thought a week ago the story was the FBI planted the evidence? So now the lawyer is returning evidence rather was planted and forgot to return all of it?

    I'm so confused? So it isn't planted now? Which stage are we at in the denialism game?
     
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  15. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    He's had months to "give it back". Stuff was given back early this year. As others have factually said, in June documents were signed by his lawyers indicating nothing was left. That was clearly incorrect. Even at that point he had 2 more months to "give it back".
     
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    Nope not at all, I just think we should know who's coming into this country instead of the current policy. Notice how brown people down on the border elected a Republican for the 1st time. Maybe you should ask yourself how this happened. Or maybe you should go live down on the border to get a little taste of what's really going on.
     
  17. fchowd0311

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    Lol now post the original comment of yours that we are all referring to.
     
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    You keep moving the goalpost, now the excuse is that its hard to give it back when your not home and now its the maid`s responsibility? Come on man, and to say that the DA shopped for the warrant? Another gop talking point, why so many?? What does it matter how many, they showed up at 10am in plain clothes, you dont know what you will find or encounter so better to have to many, besides, they didn't leak the raid, orange man did...........who am I kidding, no amount of "facts" will persuade your kind to be realistic, go ahead and believe newsmax and fox
     
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    My point is his lawyers failed at their jobs and this raid never should have happened. It was purely political. It it wasn't then make the affidavit and warrant public with no redactions. We know that's not going to happen because of the judges political persuasion. I can't wait until the shoes on the other foot. That will make fun some great entertainment. This is all about trying to keep Trump from running in 2024 nothing more or less. The Deep State has proven they will do things that have never happened in history to try to maintain power. It would be hilarious to see what happens to them if Trump was to get reelected.
     
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    No goalposts moved. Trump's lawyer didn't do her job and there was no need for a commando style raid. That was all for show. This will comeback on the Deep state whether Trump is reelected or DeSantis etc... Now if Pence is elected you can expect nothing to happen. The RINO's run deep.
     

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