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The state of the republican party

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  1. CCorn

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    She looks 15% horse
     
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    LOL
     
  3. Rileydog

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    Well, sadly, she might actually reflect the very people she is representing. One might say the same about Trump and trumpers
     
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    Fat people that wear diapers?
     
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    There’s too much irony so in fairness he missed the biggest punch line of all. How is this bish supporting gaitz (who has slept with underage girls) and calling other people pedos? I really do think will smith needs to make a guest appearance in Georgia
     
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    With all MGT's tweeting about liberal pedophiles let's review a little history of the pedophiles in her own party.

    Florida Rep. Mark Foley was forced to resign after it was revealed that he’d sent sexually explicit messages and propositioned teenage congressional pages via email and text.

    Former Rep. Dennis Hastert, the longest-ever serving Republican speaker of the House, pleaded guilty to making illegal hush-money payments in order to cover up his history of sexually abusing high school wrestlers he had coached decades before.

    Dozens of women who accused former president Donald Trump of being a sexual predator were several contestants in the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant.

    Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore was accused of preying on girls as young as 14 and 16; the New Yorker reported that his habit of trying to pick up high schoolers was so notorious that it actually got him banned from a local mall.

    Rep. Jim Jordan, one of Trump’s fiercest allies and a co-founder of the hardline conservative Freedom Caucus, became embroiled in a scandal over his time as a wrestling coach at Ohio State University, where a team doctor named Richard Strauss, who committed suicide in 2005, was found to have sexually abused more than 177 male student athletes.

    Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida is currently the subject of a literal sex-trafficking investigation, which is looking into whether he had sex with an underage 17-year-old girl, among other issues.

    A former Republican National Committee staffer was sentenced for a child p*rnography conviction the same day Jackson was confirmed to the court.

    Cont...
     
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    Part 2

    You can certainly find some Democrats out in the world who’ve been convicted on child p*rn charges. And never forget that Anthony Weiner went to jail for sexting a 15-year-old.

    But if conservatives are going to smear progressives as “groomers” and pose as the nation’s protectors of children, it’s certainly fair to bring up this history in retort. It’s also entirely valid to note how weak the GOP’s response has been to recent scandals concerning its own rank-and-file.

    The way Republicans set aside the vast array of sexual abuse charges against Trump and lined up behind him has been discussed so many times that there’s no real need to go over it again. The party’s response to Moore, meanwhile, was what you might describe as, well, semi-pathetic. To their credit, a number of elected Republicans called on Moore to exit the race or said they would vote for a write-in candidate, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee pulled its funding from his campaign.

    The Republican National Committee did as well, at least briefly. But after Donald Trump decided to re-endorse Moore, the RNC resumed its support of his candidacy, stating, “We stand with the president.”
     
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    When it came to Jordan, congressional Republicans simply circled the wagons. In 2018, then House Speaker Paul Ryan waved off demands for an ethics committee inquiry into whether Jordan was lying about his conduct as a wrestling coach, saying that the panel “investigates things that members do while they’re here, not things that happened a couple of decades ago when they weren’t in Congress.” He then called Jordan “a man of honesty and a man of integrity.”

    Later, in 2020, Jordan’s GOP colleagues selected him to become the top ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, which handles federal criminal legislation—including on issues such as sex trafficking and child p*rnography. Liz Cheney, then the No. 3 Republican in the House, said it was a “totally unified decision all around.”

    This all unfolded in the face of credible allegations that Jordan not only knew about the abuse at Ohio State, but had responded to multiple students who told him about it with comments like “If he tried that on me, I would kill him.”

    As for Gaetz, well, darkly enough, he also serves with Jordan on the Judiciary Committee—which has jurisdiction over the very Justice Department currently investigating him.

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said last year he wouldn’t punish Gaetz or strip him of any committee assignments unless charges are filed, because Gaetz is “innocent until proven guilty.”

    “If it comes out to be true, yes, we would remove him if that’s the case,” McCarthy said at the time. “But right now Matt Gaetz says that it’s not true, and we don’t have any information. So let’s get all the information.”
     
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    For now, the obvious conflict of interest remains. The Republicans have apparently decided that the committee in charge of sex crimes legislation should include one guy currently being investigated for actual sex crimes—and another who allegedly looked the other way on them. It’s not exactly the behavior of a party that cares deeply about sexual abuse.

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ts-talk-about-republicans-and-sex-crimes.html

    All of that and I still left out a lot of the article. There are a whole lot of disgusting pedophiles in politics. Pedophiles aren't just in one party, so MTG needs to shut her hypocritical horse's mouth.
     
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    Out of the mouths of babes...

     
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    For all the talk of "grooming" what Roy Moore did and what Matt Gaetz is accused of is actual grooming.
     
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    huh?
     
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    Were guns in the bible?
     
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    Isn't Gaetz accused of seeing a girl that is above the age of consent in the jurisdiction where he met her but below the age of consent in DC? That's not really what one would typically call grooming. It is still illegal if true, though I don't know if any prosecutor would actually file it (outside of potential political motivations). Besides, if that is the worst thing he has done, he is like the least embarassing Florida Man ever. ;)

    The Moore case is different, because he was allegedly messing around with a 14 year old (the age of consent in Alabama is 16). Notably, nearly everyone (except Trump) turned against Moore when these allegations appeared and he lost to a Democrat in Alabama. If convicted, he would face up to 10 years in prison. It would be very difficult to prove a 40 year old case of over the underwear touching beyond a reasonable doubt though.
     
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    Yes I doubt he would get convicted. It's why rape cases have such low conviction rates. It's really hard to prove especially because for most victims it takes time for them to report it to authorities due to being afraid which makes it even harder for a "beyond a reasonable doubt" threshold.
     
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    Whether these cases are politically expedient or whether a DA thinks they could win it you're pretty much making my point that both figures were seeking to exploit underage girls.
     
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    Moore especially dealt with a very young teen. Gaetz only though varied age of consent laws. Moore also was accused of worse conduct, touching people against their will. Generally speaking, Gaetz conduct would not be called grooming. Moore was a groomer, if the allegations are true. Neither of them were dealing with 4-7 year olds, which is what the right wingers are talking about with the Florida law and varies outcries against the woke groomer teachers, so it isn't quite the blatant hypocrisy you were suggesting, but certainly Moore was (again, if the allegations are true) a piece of human garbage. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over someone that had a legal relationship that became illegal because he went from Florida to Washington, nor would I describe it as seeking to exploit underage girls.
     
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    My gosh... the efforts one must go through to defend a sitting congressman who messed around with a teenage girl. Here's how sean davis' the federalist defending roy moore...

    Why Alabamians Should Vote For Roy Moore
    https://thefederalist.com/2017/11/30/alabamians-vote-roy-moore/
     

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