From the outside, I would agree that that is true. But I would disagree that DeSantis is one of those far right crazies. Now, Marjorie Taylor Greene and some others, yes.
Let's address these issues Democrats don't support socialism - they support social welfare. No Democrats is proposing the nationalization of entire industries. There has been exactly no change on this. Trans issues - The Democrats have broadened their general support of disadvantaged minorities. If that's moving leftward, I can accept that. Immigration - How have the Democrats moved left on this? The Democrat position has remained the same - immigrants should be reviewed and processed according to the law. That's what's happening now. Reparations - Reparations isn't a left or right issue. Free speech - there is only one party passing laws limiting free speech. It's not the Democrats. Ben Shapiro getting chased off a college campus or two for being a lying hateful douche is not a curtailing of free speech, and even if it was, it's not the Democratic party who's pushing this (it's the college students). Winning in Afghanistan was never a left or right issue. AOC and Ilhan Omar are no further left than Bernie Sanders. Meanwhile, MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, Hawthorne and many others are fascists in all but name and uniform, and certainly wouldn't have been elected in So in summary, you bring up exactly one example - trans issues - where the Democrats have moved leftwards. So technically, you're correct - the party has moved leftwards by becoming more inclusive. Boo-hoo.
The DeSantis that is leading the culture war charge and getting into a pissing match with the largest employer and massive amounts of travel income because they don't agree with one of his culture war bills? Seems pretty right wing whacko to me. But that's just my opinion.
Okay. Multiple Democrats have openly supported socialism, and at least a few are members of the DSA. Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez have proclaimed themselves socialists and at least a few members of Congress have talked about nationalizing things like Twitter. Your statement is incorrect. That is generally considered moving leftward, yes. Most conservatives do not support trans women competing in women's sports, for example. Obama deported more people than any president who proceeded him. Biden has reversed Trump era immigration policies such as the remain in Mexico policy for asylum applicants and is instead releasing people caught crossing the border illegally into the United State pending a future hearing date years in the future. The 2008 platform called for people in the country illegally to go to the back of the line for citizenship, this is no longer the case and instead the 2020 platform talks about fast tracking naturalization for undocumented immigrants. I think every poll on the issue would show this to be false. The voters on the left and right have very different views on it. Winning in Afghanistan was a bipartisan issue in favor of the war in 2001. Then it grew more and more of a partisan issue with the left being opposed to the war and the right being in favor of it (see the responses to the surge, for example). Then opinion largely turned against the war. So there was a leftward swing (the right is generally considered more hawkish, the left more dovish) first by the Dems, then by the Republicans. Bernie Sanders used to be the one weird leftist in Congress. Now he is joined by the Squad and others. They are also to the left of him on some issues. They are all much further left the 2008 center than MTG Boebert, or Gaetz are to the right. I have seen no evidence of fascism. In fact, the very fact that stuff which would have been considered mainstream conservative ideas is now called fascism is evidence of the leftward swing of the country. I brought up multiple issues, and you pretended that they are either not true or that they are non-partisan.
MAGA / Trumpism is a disturbing turn towards something that has a striking resemblance to facism. The cult of personality around Trump is undeniable. Trump is a weird figure politically. He isn’t exactly a conservative, which is what we typically thing of “right wing” in our politics. He clearly has ethno-nationalist sympathies, even though he is clever in the way he manages to talk around it. He doesn’t appear to be religious at all, and yet many evangelicals look to him as if he’s some sort of messenger of God.
I don’t have to pretend anything - your “issues” are a bunch of talking points with no basis in reality. The reality is that the Democrats and their policies are almost entirely center-right while the Republicans are almost entirely far fascist right with a few non-authoritarians hanging on for dear life until they get primaried (or choose not to run again).
I am literally pulling directly from the Democratic Party platform. These aren't talking points, they are the platform put up by the party itself. Even the video posted by @peleincubus has both parties moving to the left on multiple issues and then somehow comes to the conclusion that this is somehow a move to the right. The whole idea of defunding the police would never have gotten traction in 2012, in 2020 police funding was actually cut in multiple municipalities. 12 years ago in California, you could go to prison for petty theft with three prior petty thefts. Now, you cannot get more than 6 months in jail even if you have 100 prior petty thefts. Changes to health care, more progressive. Taxation. More progressive. Minimum wage. More progressive. Benefits. More progressive. Drug laws. More progressive. Incarceration. More progressive. Where are the big moves to the right? Voter ID? Both parties are right of center and have been since the country was founded. That is indisputable. All the movement is relative to each other or to some arbitrary point. Relative to their positions on most issues, both parties are more progressive than they were 12 years ago.
Putting aside the defunding police. The prison population in this country is what it is (it's BIG) There is something wrong and I don't know where to begin to fix it.
The the US has the worst population pool on the planet then as we have the highest incarceration rate. Okay I'll give you NK and China as their numbers are probably inaccurate but we definitely have the worst rate amongst the developed world outside of China possibly.
Well yeah and duh. Why is this been happening for so long and has not been fixed? There is obviously a wide swath of industry that profits off the system. is that enough to motivate people in positions to not fix the issues that cause such a high % of the population to be incarcerated and in the system? It’s messed up and it needs to be fixed.
There is not a high percentage of the population incarcerated (less than 1%), and those that are generally deserve to be there. I can get behind legalizing drugs and prostitution and gambling, but most people in prison (especially state prison, which is the vast majority of all prisoners) are there for crimes of violence or serious property crimes. Other countries may imprison fewer people, but this is not some totalitarian police state. trends-in-us-corrections_5.pdf (pioneerhumanservices.org) It is really not hard to avoid going to prison, or even jail, for most people. Don't steal, don't hurt other people, don't drive drunk or on a suspended license. Staying out of jail is not a high bar to set for people. I don't think we need to radically overhaul the system because less than one percent of the population cannot clear this very small hurdle.
Perhaps I am wrong. I was under the impression that the US had a higher ratio of population incarcerated than all other countries other than Russia.
The people without business degrees are like this see what happens to you when you just decide to not pay your car payment or credit cards or any loan Because you think the government will bail you out
Yep. Without a business degree nobody would know to pay car payments. Who knew that the purpose of getting a business degree was to learn that people should pay their auto loan? Where did you get your degree?
