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The state of the democratic party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. Space Ghost

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    No need to recycle the insult you literally used that 30 mins ago.

    You dont need to be a dick 24/7.
     
  2. adoo

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    @ Space Ghost,,

    my apologies;


    your postings on "tax burden" / "Govt picking winners", in particular as they relate to the top 1%, have been egs of mis-information.

    I feel compelled to correct them
     
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  3. Gioan Baotixita

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    Lol. The part that gets me is not the overused insult but the swing trader correction. LMAO
     
  4. dobro1229

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    I was speaking more towards his obvious business/promotional strategy to gain viral media moments shared by the right. It is working really well for him, and from a business perspective it makes total sense to troll the right RIGHT NOW because everyone knows that the left is really really exhausted from the Trump years, and on Friday nights will be doing other things instead of watching Bill Maher.

    Does Bill have good points though on what Dems should or shouldn't do??.... sometimes for sure. He's a smart guy.

    Does Bill's own personal opinions that are "me-centric" often cloud his opinion into a referendum on bigger political arguments.... YES. Like Woke/Cancel Culture. His own experience of getting talked down to by Ice Cube because he said the N-word, and thought he was entitled to is apparently obvious when he goes on his rants. That's why I take what he says here with a grain of salt. Also his take on food is ridiculous. He's a super rich celebrity. He cannot see that the only reason he can eat fresh fruit and veggies and not processed crap is because he's rich... and he often talks down to people that do eat crap that they are doing it because they are lazy.

    So again those Bill Maher "takes" that his own personal position clouds his point from what it really comes out as.
     
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  5. nacho bidness

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    This idea that you have to be rich to buy unprocessed food is not a good one. Dry goods like rice and beans are not expensive and neither is chicken. Now it is expensive to eat organic but that's a different animal than eating processed. Eating **** is something like not knowing basic financial literacy. It's just ignorance most of the time. Pushing the idea of food deserts is the kind of thing that turns off average voters because it doesn't stand on solid ground and then people just stop taking you seriously.
     
  6. CCorn

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    Lead my company in sales for the 3rd straight week. It’s going to be the best Christmas of my life, even while I’m battling cancer.

    This thanksgiving I’m grateful for not claiming to be a victim of the government like our conservative posters.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    We're all thankful for that too. We've all seen enough of that whining to last a lifetime.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Congrats on being profitable and hope your battle with cancer is just as successful
     
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  9. CCorn

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    I’m sorry that the mean old government is keeping @MojoMan and @dachuda86 from being successful.
     
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  10. CCorn

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    Go in for scans December 3rd. Might know on my birthday, December 9th, if I’m in remission!
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Hope things work out and you kick cancers ass!
     
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  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Cancer deserves a a definite beat down.
     
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  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Do I? I think you should have read the next two paragraphs.
     
  14. KingCheetah

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    I'm going to start a thread in the hangout called 'My Cancer Corn...' and send you cocaine, D8 vapes, and an all day pass to the Kemah Boardwalk.
     
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  15. CCorn

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    Way to give Ferntitts some extra cash!!!
     
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    I'm adding a gift card to Bubba Gumps and a meet and greet with Kemah Bob.

    +
     
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  17. adoo

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    thank you for corroborating that u’ve difficulty comprehending the MSN article on the “% of tax revenues collected by the IRS"

    It’d behoove you, to read it again!
     
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  18. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    It literally says the percentage of the 1% income that goes to taxes, not the percentage of tax revenues collected by the IRS. I even quoted it for you. It includes sales tax, which is state and local and not collected by the IRS. Keep digging yourself deeper if you want. The article talks about the percentage of revenues collected by the IRS and gives a single number (38.47%), but the slides do not represent that figure. Again, directly from the article:
    How many middle class people do you know that are spending more than 30% (or like in California, more than 47%) of their income on taxes. Is it zero? I think it is zero.
     
  19. adoo

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    Yes, you keep on publicizing that you have difficulty comprehending the MSN article, ad nauseum



    this is from the MSN article

    "The top 1% of taxpayers — those who earn $515,371 or more — paid 38.47% of the total tax revenue collected in 2017, according to the latest figures from the IRS."

    this means that 62.53% of the total tax revenue collected by the IRS were paid by the bottom 99%.

    in summary, 62.53% of the tax burden was borne by the bottom 99% vs. 38.47% for the top 1%,


    in terms of gross income, the top 1%'s piece of the pie was > 50%;
    for taxes paid to the IRS, their piece of the pie was 38.47%





    judging from the difficulty you have in comprehending a simple article on the % of tax revenues collected by the IRS, I can only conclude that you're not in the accounting/finance/tax profession
     
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  20. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I had no trouble understanding what percentage of total tax revenue is collected from the top 1% by the IRS. I in fact quoted it. What you seem to have trouble understanding is that the claim you made, that the article doesn't discuss percentage of income spent on taxes, is false. Furthermore, your claim of the total gross income of the top 1% is false. In fact, the top 1% (slightly more than the top 1% actually) earns 25.5% of the taxable income, per the IRS (at least in 2018, the last year with the numbers released, 2.28 out of 8.94 trillion dollars). So earning 25.5% of the income, they are paying 38.47 percent of the taxes collected by the IRS. So not only were you not understanding the article, you were using the wrong income numbers to come to the wrong conclusion.
     
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