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The state of the democratic party

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    link will work for everyone

    Sound Familiar? Democrats Lay Groundwork for a ‘Project 2029’
    The plan to write a policy agenda for the next Democratic president is at the center of a raging debate within the party: whether its biggest problem is its ideas or its difficulty in selling them.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/30/...e_code=1.S08.s4rl.STMh09788mnh&smid=url-share

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    Neera Tanden, who served in the White House in the Clinton, Obama and Biden administrations and now leads the Center for American Progress, said that for years, Democrats have failed to appreciate the role that Mr. Trump’s policies have played in his success.

    “Liberals underestimate the power of Trump’s ideas, and that we need better ideas to take on both Trumpism and the G.O.P.,” she said. “We get wrapped up in his personality. But he puts forward an idea like ‘No tax on tips,’ and that’s an important signifier that he is championing working-class people.”

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    Now, a robust fight is underway among Democratic intellectuals about how to define the party into the future.

    One of the most visible fissures is between a populist wing that wants to cast corporations and billionaires as villains (see the “Fighting Oligarchy” tour anchored by Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont) and advocates of the so-called abundance agenda, named for the book with that title by Ezra Klein, a columnist for The New York Times, and Derek Thompson, who recently announced his departure from The Atlantic.

    Supporters of the abundance approach seek to work with corporations — “There will be no green transition without corporate ingenuity,” Mr. Klein wrote in a recent column — and cut through regulation to solve problems and achieve progressive outcomes more quickly. The party’s long-term success, the argument goes, will be determined most by showing that liberalism works.

    The populist wing, at its simplest, seeks to redistribute power and wealth to the working class and away from economic and corporate elites, and to mobilize voters through that fight.
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    The Democrats don't know what they are doing of what direction they are taking - Robert Reich is a controversial guy, but what he said is right, and Trump won in large part because he was more of an outsider than Biden or Harris. We can argue about the validity of Trump's policies, but he clearly ran on being an outsider.
     
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    I’ll have you know that the Dems are hard at work on important initiatives!

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    Project 2029?
    Is that when they will finally get a writer for Blade?
     
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