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The state of the democratic party

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 27, 2021.

  1. Salvy

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    No wonder Democrats are in panic...

     
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  2. HP3

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    Im gonna ask you again, what did Dems do to you? Tell me.
     
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    They made him trans and he regrets it.
     
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  4. Space Ghost

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    TBH, I never considered it. I would have thought after 9/11, the USG would be competent enough to use the SSN as a unique key in the DB. Apparently its so old its not capable. Probably one of those worst kept secrets that nobody ever considered except people perpetrating fraud.

    Anyhoo, to answer your question, I would estimate 3% fraud in medical claims across the board. Now just general waste and inefficiencies (im not talking about SS), I would estimate close to 50-70%. However at this point, it becomes an economic problem with laying off that many useless people.

    I think Trump takes on the medical cartel. I can see Trump offering a public option.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    Actual fraud is 5% - nothing to with SSNs but rather practitioners using more expensive codes to collect more in reimbursements.

    Systems are in need of reform. But it should not be one man to decide how to fix it as it's a complex system where even if you think his intentions are good and that he is a genius, his approach will at the end of the day, create MORE inefficiency and waste AND fraud going about it this way.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    EVERY large system suffers from fraud and waste. You take actions to reduce it, but it will never be eliminated realistically. Human greed is just too strong of a force. But you can keep it under a certain level and go after those who commit it. Tearing the who thing down and rebuilding it will not reduce fraud. You're tearing down all the things that worked as well as didn't work. And that's the problem. What seems like a better and more efficient system may end up being a total disaster as all it takes is "missing" one thing that ironically can lead to far worse fraud / corruption.
     
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  8. Salvy

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    lol "like a guy"
     
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  10. Salvy

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    What is a guy?
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    you're right, that question was offensive
     
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    How does she explain the disproportionate representation of women in the manicure industry?
     
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  13. Salvy

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    There are no real genders, just gender constructs... reeeeeeeeee
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    More rats ready to jump ship.

    Democrat party is on life support. You know he really wanted to say r****d

     
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    that's got all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation
     
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    Manufacturing

    Jobs only for Manu Ginobili if you really think about it.
     
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    Look at people like Chowd. That's the party now. A guy who spends all day on the internet crying but contributes absolutely nothing
     
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    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-s...cond-term-bee3c094?mod=hp_opin_pos_4#cxrecs_s

    Trump Somehow Lowers the Temperature in Washington
    Democrats still attack him, but they’ve reverted from catastrophizing to ordinary partisan rhetoric.
    By Barton Swaim
    Feb. 14, 2025 at 1:33 pm ET

    The prediction that Donald Trump’s re-election would reduce the intensity of this country’s political rhetoric was made by approximately nobody. Yet it is so.

    The invective of the typical host and commentator on MSNBC, it’s true, is nearly as acidic as it was in 2017 and 2020. For a few columnists on the left, Mr. Trump is perpetrating a putsch, destroying the country and doing violence to the innocent, the same as ever. But the language of ordinary Democratic politicos has become—I wouldn’t say fair or responsible, but less manic.

    Democrats’ attacks on Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency may or may not pay off in political terms, but the dispute over DOGE officials’ access to the Treasury Department’s payment database strikes me as an entirely legitimate subject for a heated argument. Some Democrats called the matter a “constitutional crisis,” but even that bit of overripe rhetoric feels tame by comparison to what we’d become accustomed to: claims that Mr. Trump is a stooge of Vladimir Putin, that he reckons Nazis “very fine people,” that he thinks American soldiers killed in battle are “suckers” and “losers,” that he and his followers want a return to Jim Crow, that the Supreme Court justices he appointed have placed him above the law, and on and on.

    We are back, more or less, to the accusations Democrats preferred for decades—that Republicans want to gut Social Security and Medicare, and that the GOP president is doing the bidding of his wealthy friends. This is comity and concord.

    The new state of affairs has several precipitating causes, but it isn’t the simple outcome of a “honeymoon,” the consequence of a Republican having won the presidential election. There was no honeymoon in 2017. And I find it impossible to believe there would be one now if Ron DeSantis or Nikki Haley had won the presidency. The Democrats would have vilified either as a smarter, more effective version of the extremist xenophobe and authoritarian Mr. Trump.

    Why have the Democrats, having gotten what they feared and hated most, gone comparatively quiet? A plausible reading holds that Mr. Trump has been so maniacally active in so many areas that his opponents find themselves unable to formulate a coherent response. He has also chosen to begin his second term by addressing a set of topics that don’t lend themselves to easy left-right divides: tariffs and trade, cuts to foreign aid, curtailing of waste. Some of these topics are novel: retaking the Panama Canal, buying Greenland, statehood for Canada, evacuating Gaza. The savvy Democratic response to any one of these issues isn’t obvious.

    That Democrats find themselves without rhetorical thunder, however, is their own fault. Mr. Trump’s victory has robbed them of the expansive body of language they had formulated since Nov. 8, 2016, and especially since Jan. 6, 2021.

    For nearly a decade they have reveled in totalizing rhetoric about Mr. Trump. He was a threat to democracy, a wannabe dictator, a destroyer of institutions and norms. He and his followers were semifascist, according to Mr. Biden. Various Democratic politicians, liberal commentators and left-wing celebrities called Mr. Trump a racist, a misogynist, a rapist, a liar, a traitor, a conspiracy theorist, a crazy person who should be removed from office via the 25th Amendment.

    There seemed to be no moral failing his Democratic adversaries thought him innocent. The conclusion of a Manhattan criminal trial, in which Mr. Trump was found guilty of 34 counts of “falsifying business records” in furtherance of unnamed crimes, allowed Democrats to add “convicted felon” to the list of pejoratives.

    By 2024 Democrats had constructed a colossal infrastructure of disapprobation. Every literate person in America knew something, or thought he did, of Donald Trump’s moral failings and corrupt intentions. After his defeat in 2020, Democrats had every reason to think that infrastructure would prevent Mr. Trump from winning another election. Accordingly, they encouraged Republicans, sometimes overtly, to renominate him in 2024.

    What Democrats didn’t account for is Mr. Biden’s abysmal performance as president, the undeniability of his dementia and his vice president’s inability to appear minimally competent. They lost—to the man they’d spent years calling the Worst Thing in the Universe.

    The one event that vast body of opprobrium couldn’t survive was a popular-vote victory by the Worst Thing. After nearly a decade of disparaging him, about 2.2 million more people preferred him to the nominee they spent 3½ months praising to the skies. That outcome was less an embrace of Mr. Trump than a repudiation of his enemies’ catastrophizing hooey. The only proper response to such a repudiation is to use milder words, and fewer. May this blessed circumstance last longer than a few weeks.

    Mr. Swaim is an editorial page writer at the Journal.





     
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