That was as good an excuse as any to get them to fight, I guess. But it's not like the North wanted to kick out a sovereign government and replace it with it's own. it just wanted to keep the Union togather. Those kids were woefully misguided.
As we fight our way northward into the great unknown Only that one thing remains certain That I hate you guys with every tired muscle In my Confederate body --General Cartman Lee
Nice post Surf. Southpark is by far my favorite TV show. That episode was hilarious. Anyway... what Castor said is true. Lincoln couldn't have started the war under the slogan "We want to keep our territory!!!" "We want to free the slaves" sounds much better. Thus... the slavery issue was brought to the forefront of the matter.
Just to clear up a few misconceptions: (1) Lincoln didn't start the war. In fact, the Confederacy started the Civil War by attacking Fort Sumter. (2) The Emanicipation Proclamation wasn't issued until January 1863, nearly 2 years after the war started. (3) Even then, it didn't purport to free the slaves in the slave-holding Union States. The Stars and Bars always reminds me of the General Lee, that sweet no-doors car that Bo and Luke drove in the Dukes of Hazard.
More: The League of the South seeks to advance the cultural, social, economic, and political well-being and independence of the Southern people by all honourable means. Thus, the central idea that drives our organisation is the redemption of our independence as a nation. We envision a free and prosperous Southern Republic founded on private property, free association, fair trade, sound money, low and equitable taxes, equal justice before the law, secure borders, and armed and vigilant neutrality. Self-governing states and local communities invoking the favour and guidance of Almighty God. A bold, self-confident civilisation based on its cultural and ethnic European roots. As a means of making real our vision of a Southern Republic, we must first revitalise our largely Anglo-Celtic culture. Without a strong cultural base, political independence will be difficult to attain. But to strengthen Southern culture, we must overcome the mis-education of our people by undertaking a campaign to properly educate them about the history of the South in particular and America in general. To re-create Southern society, we should encourage the growth of largely self-sufficient communities among our people. We can develop healthy local communities and institutions by "abjuring the realm:" seceding from the mindless materialism and vulgarity of contemporary American society. To stimulate the economic vitality of our people, we must become producers and not just consumers. By establishing "Buy Southern" programs and by forming trade guilds or associations, we can begin to wean ourselves from economic dependency. By encouraging the use of private sources of finance, such as cooperative loans instead of the Empire's banks, we can begin to break our financial dependency. Once we have planted the seeds of cultural, social, and economic renewal, then (and only then), should we begin to look to the South's political renewal. Political independence will come only when we have convinced the Southern people that they are indeed a nation in the organic, historical, and Biblical sense of the word, namely, that they are a distinct people with a language, mores, and folkways that separate them from the rest of the world.
Lincoln knew he was starting the war when he refused to pull out of Fort Sumter. Lincoln wanted to incite war, thats why he refused to pull out. Im assuming your point about the Emancipation Proclamation is saying that Lincoln's slogan wasnt freeing slaves? Lincoln's debates in 1858 with Stephen Douglas show clearly his anti-slavery stance long before the EP. The Emancipation Proclamation's true purpose was to keep England and France from helping the Confederacy.
And all southerners are card carrying members of that group I did find it an interesting if not misguided opinion though.
