I agree, but I'm just sayin'..... Remember in the flashback scenes from seasons 1 or 2 or whenever, Tony looked like the same kind of underachiever/sullen kid as AJ. Then things for Tony turned around in football. Same with AJ. The writers might do it just becuase it would seem so implausible.
WTF? Anyone wanna clue me in on what the hell I just viewed? This episode completely flew over my head.
I think we are getting a glimpse of what life for Tony would have been if he wasn't in the mafia. I'm guessing its him dreaming while he's in the coma. That didn't sound like Meadow or Carmela on the phone when he called home.
hahah yea I do not like the sopranos with this type of episode. Oh well I pretty much figured somethign would happen to him and his men will destroy everything and fight with each other.
1) Junior looked like pretty fine when answering the Feds questions. 2) The female voice in Tony's coma dream sounded like Annabella Sciorra's character. ...or Artie Buco's wife. 3) AJ is a total loser. 4) Those idiots are gonna mess things up for Tony.
Exactly what I was thinking - but I didn't watch the credits closely enough to figure out if it was Gloria U or Charmaine B. Clearly - things have changed permanently in North NJ, judging from tonight's episode. The old Tony is gone, just like that - not incarcerated or taken down in a gang war, but capped by his delusional old uncle after all - no blaze of glory or dramatic legal battle for him - but ironically a victim of...gasp... old age...so to speak. So my guess is that we'll delve, via comatose dreams, into the psychology of tony s more deeply than ever before, strangely with him out of the picture - unless they pull a Dallas-esque Bobby Ewing caper - unlikely considering the quality of the show. Very ballsy of the sopranos to for all intents and purposes off their signature character this early in the clock - but that's why its a great show.
BTW, the dream sequence, with the lost wallet, mistaken identity, waiting around, it sort of hinted on a near-death hell/purgatory experience - except towards the end when he got the diagnosis of alzheimers in his alternate reality. I looked at that as saying "well If I'd gone straight and lived a normal life, I could have turned into a vegetable anyway" type rationalization. edit: should add, alternate reality Tony getting beat down by a bunch of Buddhist monks = hilarious.
This show is brilliant... on every level. There are too many hidden messages/allegories/allusions/miscellaneous details that are contained in that dream sequence, its too much to delve into at this time (or any time... you just have to "get it"). I'll probably wait for somebody else to completely break it down... but it's just a brilliant show.
I'm pretty sure that the alternate wife was Charmaine. They dated in high school if I'm not mistaken, and Charmaine turned him down because of his mafia life or something like that. The Buddhist thing was indeed hilarious. And regarding Vito, there was a bit where he was sneaking around the hospital. Combine that with his quote from last week about, "Tone not being around forever" (something like that), and it's safe to assume that he's looking to finish off Tony and move up the ladder. And the Alzheimer's thing to me seemed more like a conscious bit of anxiety seeping into his unconscious dream. I'm sure the lighthouse has some sort of significance, but I can't quite place it. It was an all right episode. Though I have to admit, that I'm not a huge fan of these aftermath hospital eps. I prefer the mafia intrigue and power struggle stuff. BTW, I'm sure Edie Falco locked up her Emmy with her performance here.
looks like Tony survives. http://www.tv.com/the-sopranos/show/314/episode_guide.html&season=6 68. Mayham (edit) First aired: 3/26/2006 Writer: Director: Guest star: While Tony attempts to derail a potential lawsuit, Silvio starts to suffer from his added responsibility. To add to the mayhem, Carmela needs help dealing with A.J. while Vito and Paulie argue over the profits from a recent job. Christopher proposes a business opportunity to a friend from rehab.
SPOILER: Parallel: Carmella is to AJ as Tony's Mom is to Tony Soprano When AJ said, "I'm gonna get Uncle June for you dad. I'm gonna shoot him in his f**king mummy head" I could see AJ turning even more into Tony. I think "Tony trying to fend off the lawsuit" is still in his dream/coma, with the Buddhist Monks.
Speaking of Artie's wife, anyway thought it was weird when Carmella was talking to tony about when they were younger, and him and charmaine given that she knows they slept together.
Okay, so regarding my "AJ = Michael Corleone" prediction, am I right or am I right? (again, not personalty-wise, but plot-structure.) When the show wraps up, AJ will either be the boss or he'll be a captain. This episode just makes me more convinced... Great ep by the way. Loved it.
We'll see. I'm betting that David Chase has more up his sleeve than, "AJ Soprano: The Hero's Journey". The Sopranos has always been too gritty/realistic for that kind of stuff.
I doubt it, I think he'll go into a spiral of drugs, self-destruction, ineptitude, and maybe go into a Columbine-style rampage at most, suicide or junkiehood more likely. I don't think chase would steal a cliched mafia-blood oath-revenge, following in the footsteps approach. That's too much of a hollywood ending.
m_cable and SamFisher: I hope you're both right. But I see it less like a "hero's journey" and more like a screw-up that Tony has to deal with. Even though he tried his whole life to keep AJ out, the kid bungles his way in. AJ'll screw things up, possibly incite a war, but when it's all said and done, he'll be in on the family business.
Well carmello and Roe already talked about Jackie Jr. last night. but then a.j. doesn't have the mafia aspirations that jackie jr. had.
Yet. Last night changed that to me. When AJ talked about putting a bullet in Uncle Junior's head, coupled with him flunking out of college, you know he will be part of the family business very soon.
I just want to add that the way the doctors talked to Carmella about Tony's imminent death was completely unrealistic. I kept asking my wife if this was part of the "dream sequence," because a real surgeon would never tell a family member those things. You always leave hope, as long as they are alive. Oh, and Falco's acting was amazing!
