Artest for Camby This team needs height and it needs length. It desperately needs athleticism but it's too late to rebuild. I mean, the root of this team's problems are the fact that they are the most unathletic starting 5 in the league. Our most athletic guys are a 5'9 point guard (i've stood next to Brooks) and a 6'7 undersized power forward that plays inconsistantly enough to not warrant big minutes. Do you guys remember how we lost in 2007 game 7 in the last few minutes? We couldn't get a rebound. Now that this team is two years older the defense is starting to become suspect. This team has no length, no athleticism and is full of streaky shooters. Yao is solid but is too slow with the ball to make defenses really pay as often as they should. I'm not saying Camby is the answer but his contract is decent enough and he can board and block shots (we're what, dead last?). For this team to be successful now, it needs a guy who can make up for Yao's weaknesses (given our trade chips--artest is our only option and 2010 is important). He occupies so much space but is too slow laterally that I think he needs a better weakside defender and this team also needs a backup 7ft that isn't 44 years old. I'm not saying he cures all our problems, because Lord knows this team has plenty, but I think it would be a good start to eliminate the glut of 2/3s and get a good backup who can also play with Yao. This team, like America, needs change.
Fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think he fits, you don't.... Cool. I really want a PG, but would take Maggette because of his unique skillset..... Heck...as I said.... Hinrich Magette Miller A. Miller DD
now you've forced my hand. and i have to say this. if les or morey consults me on a trade tomorrow (yeah, like that will ever happen), i'd tell them the best trade now for the team is to rid of #1 - ideally for a pg with strong shooting; if we can get a decent backup 5 in return in a packaged deal, it's even better. no idea how to get it done, but at least on paper that's the best trade. time for les to cut loss on a sinking stock, imo. btw, the maggette trade... i think he can contribute on this team nicely - but only on the premise that #1 is traded. (p.s. - to all mcgrady fans: this post is nothing personal. )
A year less of having to pay Mike Miller. He's clearly uninspired playing for the Wolves. Minnesota could establish a bruiser identity... similar to Utah. Randy Foye, Ron Artest, Ryan Gomes, Kevin Love, and Al Jefferson... that's a burly group.
Artest for Rip would be great, except Ron in Dtroit doesn't seem likely, he'll get cussed out every game from their fans
i actually think this trade woudl be ideal for us http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=25~2763~294&teams=8~8~10&te=&cash= with one problem i just realized now (and it didn't hit me earlier). no way pistons would welcome artest after that brawl ;P
The SOLUTION is:............................................................... STOP posting stupid threads where it predicts we go etc-0. I swear anytime makes one of those we automatically lose the next game. Stop jinxing the TEAM.
Camby would provide what were lacking, but whats the point of having a player who you cant play alongside your best player. With Yao playing atleast 30-40 mins a game, how much time does that leave for camby?
I think posters need to consider the two most important variables in a trade: (1) Does it make financial sense? (2) Will the players fit into the system?
I lived in DC for 3 years. They WORSHIP Caron Butler in Washington. No way they're trading him, he's as untouchable as it gets for the Wizards.
Completely off topic but i don't care. DD, what video game company did you work for? Any notable games?
sounds like were still building around Tmac then. I knew it, by the time we figure out it should have been built around Yao it will be too late. tmac is a superstar, he is the teams only superstar. he is the one who should adapt. yao is a star but while so he also has great limitations that tmac doesnt. yao needs to be surrounded by three point shooters. a dirk/wallace/bargnani type 4 big would have been devasting. not only that i see soooo much crying on blaming artest for his offense. well guess what i blame the defense. not once did i see battier lock down his defender. not once did i see tmac try to lock down his guy (notice the try). do you normally know how to tell who tries on defense? check the fouls. defensive pressure is contact. contact is fouls. ive seen rudy gay not able to do anything at a majority of times when artest was on him. what are you smart people gonna say after a artest trade? oh we lost cause (miller) was having a bad day and wasnt really good on d. Oh it was just a off night for hinrich, it happens, we tried but d needs to shape up. hey smarties, we have the offense, we need the defense! we went from 2 to 30 freaking last it feels like. and really the only one who can play consistent defense is artest, with your once in a blue moon woots from shane and tmac and rafer. you of course got yao who presence alone makes you go whoa. how many people will eat there words? how many will deny? /sigh
Camby could play 30 minutes. Scola could play 28ish. Yao could play 34ish. Landry plays sporatic minutes at the 4 as it is when Scola is on so do the same and give him a few minutes at the 3 and reduce Battier's minutes a bit. He is not the same player defensively. Battier doesn't need to be playing more than 26 minutes a game or so and a few of those could come at the two. It really would depend on matchups but I think Scola is actually a more effective offensive player when Yao is out of the game and it is just him on the low block playing inside out.
yea I remember the first time I read a Artest for Miller, Miller had a horrible night, just goes to show.
Hmmm...With that scenario you would have alot of floor time with both Yao and Camby in the lineup. I dont see how we could pull that off. We would be so slow and teams would pick and roll us to death.
My problem is not Ron's D, even though he always seems to try to steal the ball after a rebound and then there's a fast break for the other team. Its his offensive game. He tries to do too much, even when he had Scola and Wafer in the game. It seems that he believes that he has to shoot everytime when Grady and Yao aren't in the game.
